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Sometimes, a nice, casual, crypto-oriented but not hyper-crypto chat, especially with someone who isn't 100% crypto, is just what is needed. We get a perspective of what is going on with those outside our bubble.

In fact, maybe that might be an idea for an ongoing segment for the Cryptoverse. On your typical live stream, you get crypto-oriented interviews of people completely immersed and vested into blockchain, crypto, their projects, which is fantastic for us crypto-heavy folks, and of course moves us forward. Perhaps a periodic dose of the not-so-heavy is like an intake breath or a quick breather on the sprint up the mountain.

The Bitcoin Podcast Network does this fairly well, with several podcasts spanning a whole gamut of interest. Most of the podcasts are crypto heavy, as you'd expect, with flagship "The Bitcoin Podcast" being their main show, and "Hashing it Out" being the deep dive that even experts might have to dust off their virtual slide rulers for. And then there's "On-Ramping With Dee", which is what I'm talking about - onramping newbies, or a Q&A with people with a crypto veteran so you can take a break from the heavy crypto talk and connect with "the normies".

It is good to have a wider frame. One topic that most people seem to be interested in is wealth, because it deals with necessities of life, is a continuous stream of income in form of an accepted means of exchange for good and services. Of course the human constitution is such, that we seem to feel that we should be able to profit from all services and goods available to our senses and our minds despite what we ourselves contribute to the whole of society and economy. Is there a natural right to consume? I think yes to some extent. The simple example being air and water. ... It is good to reflect our interest and activity in crypto in a wider frame. So thanks again for this interview to both of you. The concept of wealth is one such wider frames which are good to consider.

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