Talking About It Doesn&#x27;t Get It Done

theguruasia (67) 5 years ago

@whatsup,
When STEEM up they come, when STEEM down they left! So peg SBD to $10 and see the miracle happen!

Cheers~

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7 votes

midlet (72) 5 years ago

I infiltrated DLive last night(made an account). I am jealous, and salty and frustrated to be perfectly honest. The site is beautiful. The signup was easy. I had to make a Dlive account as well as a Lino wallet, and I did both in minutes and they have instructions that are easy to understand and easily accessible.

I think my biggest takeaway's from my experience there were

There is no focus on crypto there. The fact that it's a cryptocurrency is a secondary afterthought. They are offering a service that is competitive with the current leader in that space. Blockchain and crypto enable that but, the end user doesn't necessarily need to know that. In their case they give the end user as little information about crypto and blockchain as possible as they have the entire flow from earning "Lino Points" to cashing out, worked out and integrated into one fluid experience.
Decentralization is a strength for security and freedom, but it's a disadvantage for organization, cohesive vision, and precise execution. We seriously need like a think tank community to just think about and come up with proposed solutions for these issues. We're blazing trails and this is all an experiment. We need to adapt or die.
I think a part of our evolution will be steering away from the faucet model. There should be more dapps that are their own thing and there should be a strong push to have an end to end user experience that is self contained in each dapp, from account creation to selling. We need to evolve from go to this site to learn about Steem, go to this site to make an account, go to this site to swap steem for something else etc.

I should probably just create my own post...

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6 votes

oldtimer (75) 5 years ago

Agree with you. I just wonder how is with the wallet security on Dlive.

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whatsup (75) 5 years ago

Might as well post it now! :) Good points.

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practicalthought (65) 5 years ago (edited)

I covered this recently dissecting pyramids. Steem itself is decentralized, any company utilizing it for their business make that growth from it a form of centralization. If there is to be a growth off of Steem, there will be many centralized pyramids coming from it. But Steem is always the base allowing it, not the centralization or pyramid itself.

I believe (and will be expounding on more soon) that smart business is to stop setting up a circle focusing within Steem and demonstrate and create apps that enhance preexisting businesses that already are solvent in their cash flow and seek to either use Steem to become more efficient in keeping more of their cash flow, or to increase the cash flow.

There is no good reason this hasn't happened yet, other than a breakdown in skill sets. Programmers aren't marketing machines, or business people for the most part. Nor those others have programming skills typically.

But we have enough proof that focusing inward within one of the preexisting pyramid structures like Steemit is not the way forward.

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3 votes

whatsup (75) 5 years ago

Totally agree!

stackin (78) 5 years ago

We had big youtubers here already such as Hodgetwins, Pete, Max K, Grant Cardone, Robert K and all the crypto influencers on steem. They all left as they don’t get upvotes as all the whales rather just sell there votes with bitbots. Who’s to blame, the community. Give me that drama token 😂

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3 votes

whatsup (75) 5 years ago

Yes, I can't argue a bit. Our "Investors"... Who think investment means... taking the most out, are not into putting effort in.

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stackin (78) 5 years ago

😂😂😂😂😂

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oldtimer (75) 5 years ago

They don't understand that if you want to be an influencer on steem you need to buy some steem first. These guys are loaded and I don't have any respect for them. Same with RT and Wearechange.

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demotruk (69) 5 years ago (edited)

They don't understand that if you want to be an influencer on steem you need to buy some steem first.

Maybe that's not their problem, it's our problem.

Expecting change from potential users instead of making it more accessible for them if a recipe for failure.

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stackin (78) 5 years ago

That makes sense. I don’t think they realized that when first coming into the platform.

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lordbutterfly (70) 5 years ago (edited)

Meh, they just salty cause they arent good at kissing whale ass as some of us here. haha
And on Slowwalker point....
Why would they have to buy Steem? Are you saying that only those that buy Steem are bringing in value? Are you more valuable the more Steem you have?
Nah. Thats the attitude that got us into the mess we are in.

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newageinv (70) 5 years ago

It may be a great option but it will still be much short in the community aspect as that is something achieved slowly. The attention will also be brought to all decentralized platforms providing the same options for its content creators of censorship resistance and community based votes to entangled more of them.

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oldtimer (75) 5 years ago

I read in one of the posts that Dlive got 100K new users next or even the same day.
I'm almost sure that steem onboarding is just not ready yet and with the system in place with all these keys I'm not sure if it ever will be.
Now you know why there is no promotion from stinc.
I would be very happy if I'm wrong.

whatsup (75) 5 years ago

yeah, me too.

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eaglespirit (66) 5 years ago

I was wondering what the fuss was about. I need a whiskey now.

haikubot (54) 5 years ago

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eaglespirit (66) 5 years ago

Baha!! Excellent!!

whatsup (75) 5 years ago (edited)

That's funny, I love that bot, unless I say something mean.

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oldtimer (75) 5 years ago

Cheers.

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bluerobo (61) 5 years ago

Yo! Talk to your buddy dRama. Maybe it gives you a hug. Looks real cuddly ;)

Let's see if that this stunt sticks. So far it's just talk.
Going after banned YouTubers and Facebookers looks a little short sighted. You may not like these platforms but you have to be a giant turd in order to get banned there usually. Is that the kind of authors that present Steem in a good light?

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whatsup (75) 5 years ago

That's absolutely not true. They have been shutting down channels left and right for any number of reasons.

Also my Dad creates video for websites and they have a huge problem on that side too, because they insist on ending on "Recommended" videos, which no one wants on their website.

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bluerobo (61) 5 years ago

I just dont want to end up in a wingnut cesspool of extremists... that's my worry here

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itstime (60) 5 years ago

Pewdiepie is not an extremist of any kind...he is controversially jokey guy...sometimes the jokes don't work !!

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bluerobo (61) 5 years ago

I never said pewdiepie is ;)

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sames (65) 5 years ago

I wonder how much Pewdiepie got from dlive/lino?
Celeb sponserships go a long way as well with the other factors by others.
Maybe the DAO and the foundation can make it happen? Who knows...

whatsup (75) 5 years ago

I'm sure there was a decent payment involved.

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nonsowrites (70) 5 years ago

Question: can we afford top-notch influencers? Maybe we can but I would rather have the resources of the blockchain spread amongst more active users. What I see most times is that we are in a rush to nowhere. We are not ready for the type of attention we seek which will eventually come even if we are not conscious about it. These people who are being banned will need alternatives, we are creating that and most of what we are creating isn't ready for mass consumption. I don't care about Pewdie..whatever
I don't even think dlive can keep him on their payroll for long, maybe that's not the plan either. I still consider this a win in some way for us. Other influencers/ YouTubers will most definitely be in search of other alternatives asides YouTube and dtube is an alternative. And we might not have to pay excessive fees to keep them because they will willingly land at our doorsteps if we promote our blockchain better.

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whatsup (75) 5 years ago

Can we afford it? I don't think we will afford it.

We don't have to go for the absolute top.

I am losing patience with waiting for our stuff to be ready. :)

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bil.prag (68) 5 years ago

i am a bit lost, is lino on exchanges? can you trade it? it looks like they are doing a good job in marketing but not so great in crypto part? or am just a noob that i am?

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demotruk (69) 5 years ago

It's not on exchanges. They have testnet tokens, but they sell and let you cash out testnet tokens directly through the site, with PayPal and Bitcoin.

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bil.prag (68) 5 years ago

thanks for the info

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whatsup (75) 5 years ago

Lino is their blockchain's name. It is my understanding it only has the one app.

I have no idea where it trades, I never hear about it except when dlive comes up.

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bil.prag (68) 5 years ago

that is also what i managed to find out so i am a bit confused. thanks

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nonsowrites (70) 5 years ago

Well, we can speed up the process by having more business-minded teams behind each dapp. Tech guys are great but not many of them understand the business well enough to build a sellable service. Some don't even care about it.

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