Dear PayPal: Phô Q Right in The Neck!

in #decentralize5 years ago (edited)

In nearly two years on this platform, I’ve been able to refrain from dropping a curse wOrd, something I’m quite proud of actually. However, my most recent transaction with PayPal is really testing my patience.

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Right in The Neck!

Welcome to my #blog—here comes an uncensored #story about PayPal and PayPal only abusing their authority accompanied by managerial errors which, consequently, has rendered the fiat from the sale of our 16k truck inaccessible for a total of five days and counting. tic.. toc.. tic.. toc..

Firstly, when I advertised our truck for sale a little over two weeks ago, I listed #cryptocurrency as my preferred method of payment. Had the buyer adhered to that request I wouldn’t be in this situation but, unfortunately, like too many people of this world today, he’s behind the times and consciously ignorant of the technological advances only #crypto provides.

A gentleman from Washington State, USA, was the first person to respond to my ad. I had several responses because our truck was in really good condition and priced fairly. I notified each of the other potential buyers of the gentleman moving his #family down from Washington State and, should he change his mind, I would be #writing each of them back in the order in which I received their responses. That wasn’t necessary, as soon as he did his visual inspection and test drove the vehicle, he decided to buy it.

Prior to his arrival, we spoke several times on the phone. One of our conversations consisted of what type of payment I would accept—cash, check, etc. I suggested #Bitcoin and I could tell by the way he scoffed the idea, he wasn’t familiar with Bitcoin nor digital currency. I then suggested USD. We talked about it and agreed PayPal would be our method of value exchange. That was my first mistake. I’ve transacted numerous times with PayPal and I’ve never had any issues, in fact, when it comes to a centralized banking authority, PayPal seemed to be the lesser of two evils—mistake number two.

The purchase and sale of a vehicle in Costa Rica is wildly different from the United States. There’s no DMV here, there isn’t a pink slip attached to a vehicle like I’m accustom to in the states. The Costa Rican government has a powerful computer system that logs all of the vehicle owners information and titles are only transferable by an abogado (attorney) so, although you don’t have registration fees, the government does get their share from the sale of a vehicle. I wouldn’t release my name from the deed nor hand over keys until I saw the value from my asking price in my PayPal wallet—mistake number three.

While in the attorneys office, after she printed out all of the proper documents, each stamped with a seal of approval and, prior to signing anything, I insisted he send me the funds which he did. Within minutes, the PayPal screen on my phone showed the balance in full that he transferred to me from his wallet. I verified the transaction twice, once on my mobile app and once on their website, I was satisfied with the transfer and proceeded with the sale—mistake number four. The #new vehicle owner and I shook hands, said goodbye to each other, “nice to meet you” and a few other formalities. I went back to the apartment and he went back to Washington State after storing the vehicle—he isn’t moving his family down here until the end of August.

#Life seemed to be back to normal and everything was going smooth, I went to the gym and put the sale of the truck behind me. About 30 minutes into my work out, roughly an hour after the transfer of the vehicle, I received an email from PayPal:

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Wtf?! My account is limited, the truck is long gone, and now I can’t access the funds from the sale of the truck! I can’t do anything at all inside my PayPal wallet, I can’t even send @jlsplatts $10 for #tendollaruesday—nothing! And this happened last week, Thursday, five days ago! Each time I attempted to access my wallet, these are the messages I received:

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2-3 business days?! After several phone conversations at international dialing rates, I reached out via email, the only option I was given and, in my notification center, I had a whole list of items that required attention such as changing all of my security questions and updating my password. PayPal now knows more about me than my wife, including but not limited to, my grandmothers maiden name and the birthplace of my grandfather—the correspondence looks something like this:

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Upon completion of the required information, I received a notification in my email within 24 hours stating my limitations can not be lifted:

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Although all of my information was accurate and true, my PayPal account is eight years old and my previously listed addresses no longer coincide with my drivers license nor my current brokerage account statement. I again had to log into PayPal, update my primary mailing address, as well as a secondary mailing address, assuring PayPal the addresses on all of my identification matched the documents I emailed them—another 24 hours passed when I received yet another rejection:

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Another 2-3 business days—what now?! I went down to the local market and purchased additional cell phone minutes for a third time. Nearly $90 in international calling fees, I contacted customer support again and was told my PayPal primary mailing address didn’t match the mailing address on my brokerage account—the one I circled for them in bold, black ink:

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I said “ma’am, the mailing address on my brokerage account is identical to the mailing address I was required to update with your wallet service.” She then made me aware the mailing address in fact does not match my personal identification and has been rejected—they can’t verify me with the use of a P/O box listed in El Paso, Texas because my statement address is Las Vegas, Nevada. Ok, now I’m confused.

“Ma’am, I’ve never lived in El Paso, Texas, I don’t know where you’re getting that information from and, I assure you, my mailing address is in Las Vegas, Nevada.” That’s when she called me Mr. Schwab. “Excuse me,” I asked, “Mr, Schwab?” She said “Yes, Mr. Schwab, your primary mailing address must match your current mailing address on your brokerage account.” After ALL of that, five days worth of numerous international dialing rates, countless email correspondence, suspended transactions, account limitations, no vehicle to even drive to the market and jumping through KYC hoops, they didn’t even get my name right—they’ve mistaken my identity, @dandays, a California native with a Nevada mailing address for Mr. Charles Schwab in El Paso, Texas:

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That was this morning, Monday, June 10th and the sale of the vehicle was compete on Thursday, June 5th. Now I’m required to wait an additional 24 hours while the PayPal fraud department continues their investigation—sofa king awesome!

I’ve been somewhat in contact with the gentleman who purchased the truck, he’s long gone now with his family in Washington State while my wife and I are left here in Costa Rica to deal with this mess. All the while, we have no vehicle, no fiat from the sale of the vehicle and each correspondence takes a minimum of 24 hours to complete. I really hope to update this article tomorrow and say the funds have been released to which I’ll immediately move to one of our centralized accounts and get the fuuu heck out of PayPal.

The only thing I did wrong throughout this entire process was be the nice guy I guess—fool me once shame on me! I even allowed the buyer to sleep in our studio apartment and this is the thanks I get—noted. Dear PayPal...

Update
After holding my (not theirs) fiat hostage for a total of seven days without any regard to my financial situation and nearly $100 in international dialing rates, PayPal finally granted me access to my wallet—7 days later:

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This says it all...
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WOW

Yeah, and all I can say is...

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Thanks for stopping by @jlsplatts, stay safe on them poles man—you know what I mean!

Life abroad, huh?!? 🤡

Speaking of broad... you sure are pretty! 😉

iheartu all the time beautifulest.

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OMG, YES! Paypall literally fucked me over so many times, they were honestly making feel like it was their money and I am only borrowing it or somethinf. It is humiliating, them and western union are the reason I spent three full days sleeping in the street while it was rainy and very cold. And the way they talk, reminds me of Ned’s when he fucked up that whole draw thing, completely condescending. I just can’t with them, I could write a comment three times as long as your post. AND BTW I STILL HAVEN’T GOTTEN MY MONEY FROM THEM.

Amir, what’s up man?! It’s been a long time, I’m glad you’re still on the platform. How’s Iraq? Iraq, right? Or was it Iran? 🤔 Pretty sure it’s Iraq.

Dude, while I got you here, have you seen this tiny desk performance by Tech N9ne and Kaliko? Good stuff.

Eh, this fiasco I’m dealing with right now from PayPal is intense. You said it perfectly, it’s like I’m boring from them and my money is actually their money—it’s crazy! And the last time I spoke to them was yesterday, I haven’t heard ish today from the pricks. I’m really disappointed and, at this point, I don’t know what to do?? I can’t think of anything other than fly to San Jose, California and walk in their front door to see if they’ll give me my money. Dude it’s crazy.

Are you telling me you’ve been dealing with this since steemfest last year?! Are you F’ing kidding me? How long have they been holding your funds hostage?

Thanks a lot for stopping by @amirtheawesome1, it’s real nice to see you again.

Okay that is like 5th degree not third lol.

One, yes and I am back for good. Iraq is fine, it is more beautiful than Ingive it credit for.

I actually haven’t checked any Strange music related stuff ever since what if it was me, so this shoild a good thing to start a dive back into them.

I honestly would go to their doorsteps and do the same if they didn’t have the money.

Finally, no it is not for steemfest, I have those in crypto and will use them to go this year’s steemfest. I told Bernie I will use the money to go to steemfest but not which one lol

My pleasure

I’ll see you Thailand. 👍🏿

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2 years ago my friend has 50$ in his account and for no reason, they froze the account, he called him and they said it's because the bank (that does not make sense) he called the bank and they said, of course, it's because of PayPal, not us

so suggest everyone, if you wanna buy pay using the credit card directly don't use Paypal they are using errors to close and steal people funds

:warning: DO NOT transact with PayPal, repeat DO NOT transact with PayPal.

I’m on day 6 @cityofstars with a frozen account and there’s nothing I can do about it. I even asked the last representative I spoke to if I should go to San Jose, California and prove my identity and she told me it won’t make a difference. She actually said they would still refer me to an email notification.

This whole situation has been a fiasco ever since the transfer cleared my wallet. I hope I can update this post soon. An entire week is ridiculous.

Thanks for stopping by @cityofstars.

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that's why we don't like centralized platform, Man, I just heard some news that says eBay is going to remove PayPal from its platform and the relationship between both of them will be cutted in 2020 after the contract finish and eBay will make new contract with another payment company all of that because of similar reasons that you said in your post

7 frikkin days bro! They held my funds hostage for a week with no regard for my financial situation. Good for eBay—a big middle finger to PayPal.

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I see they unblocked your account, well now do whatever you want and delete it

I got my fiat out of there immediately! Goodbye, PayPal—“right in the neck.”

Robin told me about this mess you have been involved in with PayPal.
I hope everything has been rectified by the time you get this reply.
It has got to be a totally helpless feeling.
Payfoe needs to get their shit together, can you imagine if this was a real emergency and the money was needed to address a serious issue, hell you could be dead and buried before receiving the funds.
Patience is a virtue, and in this case there is really no other way to go. Hang in there my man.

Hey what’s up, Sweed? I wish I could say it’s been rectified but I’d be lying! Day 6—they’re still holding my money hostage. It’s indescribable man, I feel as though I’m filing loan documents to borrow money from my own self. Explain that!!

And I’m at their mercy with their 2-3 business days horse crap—extremely frustrating man. I see a balance in my PayPal wallet but only PayPal has access to it.

:warning: DO NOT transact with PayPal! Repeat: DO NOT transact with PayPal!

Thanks for stopping by @thebigsweed. We’ll be in NY on the 23rd. 👍🏿

With us heading to the Jersey shore on the 24th, I'm sorry to say that we will not be able to meet while you guys are in the city. Sorry for the late response, but we were trying to see if we could make this happen. I've never seen you so frustrated my friend, totally understandable. Where are you guys headed next? Wherever it is, I hope your next stop plays out better than your time in Costa Rica. Be safe you guys and in the future we will get together. Stay in touch. I now have this discord thing down and I also have your e-mail Arts. God bless.

Hello @dandays, how are you doing? I don't have a paypal account. And I don't think I need it now. By reading the writing makes me have a lot of knowledge about paypal. Thank you sir. Have a nice day .

You’re very welcome. Good call on your part, I would recommend any alternative method before choosing PayPal. I, personally, will only suggest PayPal as a payment method if it’s the last option—I’m washing my hands with PayPal.

Thanks for stopping by @elianaelsima.

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I never knew account on palpal can be limited. I open a palpal account then but kind of difficult so I abandon it

This is my first time experiencing an issue like this with them. I had no complaints until this scenario. It sucks!

Thanks for stopping by @adenijiadeshina.

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An interesting review @dandays and I also had previously problems with the limitations of the PayPal wallet, so without extreme necessity I try not to use this payment system!

Man, I’m amazed at the responses I’m getting—I had no idea! I really thought this was happening just to me but apparently not and I’m one of many. I’m taking notes—piss on PayPal!

Thanks for stopping by @serkagan. I really appreciate all of your support—thank you!

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@dandays Very unpleasant situation. I believes everything will be fine soon.

Hey how’s it going eii, thanks for reading this article. I’m so naive I thought I was a solo case but the responses I’m getting suggest otherwise. Apparently this is a common PayPal issue and brute stealing from a lot more people than just me. Be careful when dealing with PayPal.

Thanks for stopping by @eii.

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I only know about paypal, but I have never tried to transact on paypal, in my opinion it is rather difficult

In the past it’s been relatively convenient for me and I couldn’t complain. That all changed now.

Thanks for stopping by @ustazkarim. And thank you kindly for the Resteem, sir!

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