In the Long Run: Dealing with the Left, Mass reservations on Pinochet Airlines are NOT necessary

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A couple of weeks ago, in a discussion with @builderofcastles, I noticed that as we discuss "dealing with the Left", we rarely discuss what that means:

I do plan on making a post about the limits we should look at, both legally and morally.

Obviously, we shouldn't even be thinking of booking every liberal on Pinochet Airlines, as an extreme view.

Like or not, there is a pretty high % of people that are so group oriented that socialism seems "right" to them regardless (grouping up is an evolutionary tactic)..

Even more importantly, some are our friends and family. For me, it is only family. I dropped (or was dropped by) my leftist friends.

I'm an outlier because I was usually the instigator of those lost relationships...but there is no way I am going to be a friend to people that would tax me, lie about it being a tax, and then claim that the tax-not-tax was really for my own benefit

Screw that; these are the people that wave at you in sadness as the Gestapo dragged you off...becuase it's all for the better, even if Steve was almost a nice guy

Anyway, there should be some discussion out there about what is too far, because I am afraid that those decision points are usually arrived at far before people realize what they have gotten themselves into

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So what is too far? Let's start with some brainstorming:

  • Most of us have at least one loved one that is batshit leftist; if not there will be some neighbors, or friends perhaps
  • There is no point in killing or jailing everybody that disagrees with you: after all, we are not leftists ourselves and we don't need to use all their methods, only those that work; leftist death camps don't come into play because they work in controlling populations, they come into play as the invariable result of leftist dishonesty and failure
  • Do you really want to kill people for having a stupid opinion? Look at your life and be honest with yourself...have you ever had a stupid and dangerous idea? Do you really want some holier-than-thou buttinsky making life-and-death rulings about you based on your stupid ideas, no matter how fleetingly you held them as sacred?
  • Do you want the power of the State enlarged? Every time we want the State to do something for us, it gets larger...every time the State gets larger, it becomes harder to control. The more power a State gets, the more likely the people making the decisions of State will magically decide they want more power for the State.
    Having said that, I recognize that I am expressing the general framework of this post in terms of State power; I don't consider this a contradiction. Giving the State a limited and defined power is one thing, but you damn well be better to enforce those limits...you; not somebody else. Relying on someone else to guarantee your security is what got you into this mess to begin with.
  • One of the principals of liberty is that you only punish those that individually commit crime; this would mean going after the leaders, propagandists, street thugs, and organizers...not the cult followers
  • A certain amount of the population is ALWAYS going to have the bobblehead ideas. Groupthink is an evolutionary development in humanity, and social cohesion is a strategy that works; of course the realistic interpretation of how to achieve that will be perverted or mistaken.
    You can't "fix" people by making their dumbthink punishable, you can only protect yourself by making their dumbthink actions illegal
    [Example] Bobbleheads march down the street whining about "social justice"; fine and dandy, you just don't let them steal from you or restrict YOUR actions to suit their UnicornView of life.

What are options to Nacht Und Nebel? (History of the phrase)

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  • All judgments need to be based on objective standards, not on subjective standards; he sounds like a communist just doesn't cut the mustard...How does he sound like a commie? What did he say to give you that impression? When and where was that said? Can you verify these things?
  • what makes a person a leftist needs to be rigorously defined so that objective judgments can be made...I am going to go help the poor is NOT a leftist position by any means, while we should force everyone to "help" the poor is.
  • A constitutional law prohibiting the government to perform a leftist act is better than rounding people up that think that socialist thing should be done
  • Nobody should take the Helicopter Ride unless they are an actual security threat. Again, what a "security threat" entails needs to be the result of a rigorous and strictly defined set of OBJECTIVE standards
  • If you have set your laws up correctly AND you pay attention to those you set to enforcing them, you can even let the dingalings vote...just laugh at them as their SAVE THE UNICORN ACT OF STUPIDITY is struck down before ever getting enforced.
  • Slight digression - One of the big problems that he have with our current rule of law is that it is now a rule of precedents and judges rather than setting clear bounds of behavior and enforcing those standards.

But a person that has flatly said that YOU must be subject to their leftist tyranny AND that advocates violence against you for disagreeing with them?

...or even not baking bread to impossible economic conditions...(bakers were executed in leftist france for being unable to buy grain at inflated prices from the communes while simultaneously selling at artificially low prices to the urban poor here and here)
...remember that economic failure due to the inherent dishonesty of leftism always results in oppression and ultimately to death camps...The Four Pillars of Leftism

So, what do you do with that guy?

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