No Means No Even in the Face of Bad Advice.

in #life6 years ago

There's a beautiful young lady at the restaurant where I work.

Blonde bombshell describes her to the T.

She's very friendly, bubbly, outgoing, and eager to get along with everyone.

Everybody likes working with her.


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The guys especially like working with her because they've all got it into their head that they might have a chance at taking her home one day.

One thing about working in the restaurant business is that you learn to work all of the angles. If you've got an extra edge like being beautiful then you've got to use that to your advantage. It means more tip money, but it also means that more people might be eager to get to know you.

Whatever you've got.... you've really got to use it.

Some of the guys enjoy taking Martha out to dinner. She never says no because she likes to be friendly with everyone. Of course, she also enjoys a free meal and everyone seems to throw money at her at every opportunity.

Let's party with Martha!

She's always welcome to come over here!

Whenever Martha is involved, she gets all the beer, food, and whatever else she can devour. Why? Everyone wants to get her in the sack.

Bobby has tried his best to bed her every single day since he started at the restaurant. Despite this, he and Martha actually developed an unusual kind of friendship.

She might go on a date then wind up at Bobby's house to play video games.

If she's feeling down she might go talk to Bobby about what's bothering her while he buys her beer after beer.

Martha has told me time and time again that although she enjoys hanging out with Bobby, she really hates his general attitude about life. He's a total slacker. She also finds him absolutely repulsive in the looks department.

Bobby is a frat boy type. Joe six pack. He's always up for a good time, but he's not so fun to work with.


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There have been a handful of times when Martha mentioned to me that Bobby got a little inappropriate with her while they were intoxicated.

One time they were playing video games and he told her "If you win I will buy you a nice dinner tomorrow, but if I win you have to let me kiss you all over your neck."

She told him to cut that crap out just like she always does.

I've noticed Bobby's mentors come in and talk to him once in awhile. They are a bunch of frat boy alumni. Adults that have already been through this phase of life.

Sometimes people will tell you something like....

"You've just got to keep swinging until you hit the ball."

or

"If you really like a girl you should never give up on trying to be with her."

I've heard Bobby's mentors coach him multiple times on this very subject. Try, try again. He gets his hopes up and then they get dashed again and again.

"I just want to be friends." she tells him. He seems to be OK with that, until the next time.


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The last incident was too much for Martha.

Having nothing to do that evening, she and Bobby went out to have a nice dinner together. Of course Bobby paid. He always pays because he's trying to get into her pants. However, she just wants to be friends as she has stated multiple times. She still expects him to pay for everything though.

I can just imagine the voice of his mentor in his head telling him not to give up on his dream of being with her.

They picked up a bunch of alcohol and went back to Bobby's place where they played video games, which is what they normally do.

At some point Bobby got kind of grabby with her, and then took off his pants. He was clearly drunk. Dancing around in his boxer shorts, he told her to relax as he caressed her neck.

Taking it to the next level?

Martha didn't want to go to that level.

Needless to say there was some pushing, some attempted kissing, and what could essentially be considered aggressive behavior bordering on something illegal.

Unprovoked? No means no, under any circumstance.

Martha called some friends to come pick her up. She no longer spends time with Bobby. When they work together it is a very uncomfortable situation for everyone around them.

It's not always the best idea to hang out with people that you work with. However, if you do you need to be honest and true about who you are and what you want from them.

Martha should never have used Bobby. She should never have taken money from him, not for food or anything else.

However, Bobby should have realized that he was friend zoned right away and that it is impossible to get off that lonely island, no matter how much you try.

The thing that made it particularly difficult for him was the advice he was getting from his mentors. Of course they're going to tell you to try, try again.... but if you try too hard you're going to find yourself in a terribly bad spot. A better piece of advice would have been read the situation and react accordingly.

Of course, that's pretty hard to do when you're intoxicated anyway.

I think Bobby and Martha both learned an interesting lesson.

They'll both get over it, and each other, in time.

When you're young there are plenty of lessons to be learned, but this one is pretty important.

No means no even in the face of bad advice.

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Wow crazy story. Bobby was in the wrong for doing what he did and inviting her over repeatedly and being drunk. Martha should of known what she was getting herself into. She seems kind of naive. I'm glad nothing violent happened though! Good share.

"Martha should have known what she was getting herself into."

Being friend zoned does not excuse violence.

I enjoyed the read on this post.

You sound level-headed; the one thing guys seem to think, my not so humble opinion is that every woman wants them.

When he removed his pants and started dancing it became about him and not her or even them as a couple.

The ego is an enemy for many a person. She really should have told him she did not find him attractive. But for whatever reason she didn't. I think he knows now.

A lot of men, especially when they are particularly young, are driven by biological Instinct. It's a difficult thing....and I do understand it. Alcohol and other substances definitely do not help, but one has to wrestle control of, not only their instincts, but their emotions and the whole package in order to be a proper adult.

That's true, but if you really want to be with someone you must show respect.
I don't care what age. If he really cared for her maybe he could have considered not drinking around her. Just a thought.

I think she was the one that instigated the drinking. She's a complete lush. This situation was just ripe for disaster.

So she is not all that as I thought. haha!

Knowing when to give up is one of the most valuable skills you can have, maybe Bobby will realise this one day.

Cg

Very true. It's one of the most difficult lessons to learn though.

Just consider where you are at trust wise too. I remember the first time my husband kissed me over 32 years ago. He put his arms around me in the jacuzzi and asked. Feeling his arm muscles around me and being in my twenties you know what the answer was.

If he would have taken his pants off and danced around I would have went the other way.

Lol... Yeah I can imagine that scene. Your hubby must be amazingly romantic.
Bobby was hopeless. And he sure wasn't really looking for a relationship. He just wanted sex.

Men are wired that way, it is understandable. But even to just get sex try romance it gets you a lot further with a lot of women.

Why on Earth would you spend hours after hours getting intoxicated with someone you know has got the super-hots for you?!!
Like, that's just calling for trouble.
Good thing she was able to get out of there. Things would've gotten much more harder to get over!

And could Bobby be any more of a frat boy?! Jeez! Getting soneone who doesn't like you romantically to fall for you doesn't have to mean trying to get into her pants! What's wrong with guys anyway? As far as I know, that's just guaranteed to get a lady even more uninterested, unless she was only playing hard to get.

I told her that same thing but I honestly think it was just for the free alcohol and food.

I'm thinking he must be really inexperienced because most guys already know what wasted time means. He was totally wasting his time but he obviously didn't even realize it.

"Calling for trouble" Everything Martha did is "calling for trouble" depending on where you are in the world. Being pretty, drinking, working with men in a place where your looks get you more money, hanging out without a chaperone.

I see your angle and but really, for every "bad" choice a woman makes, there are 10 choices that are bad no matter what she chooses.

Violence is never called for.

Oh, sure! You're right. I'm a dedicated member of the 'no-excuse', 'anti-violence' band. Still, we know alcohol reduces inhibitions, and Bobby's were clearly minimal in the first place. Frankly, I'm surprised he didn't get more frisky sooner.

Its really interested story i learn much thing from this story but i donot believe how much people are cheap. And use one another for your happiness. I should blame girl which free to much with him. If girl are not free boy didn't do something just like that.

Nice story .

All your stories are really good, and very interesting to read.

However nice story.

Classic story.

Its hard to feel bad for bobby.

And its hard to tell Martha not to accept the freebies. I mean, she is clear on the contract. You get to spend time with her, you pay for her meals.

But those mentors are worthless, clearly you don't tell people you love to keep going for it when they are being used.

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