Love ~ The Nightmare of Existence
I am just going to ramble here on some thoughts I have been thinking lately so bear with me.
What would it feel like to feel no pain? To never stub your toe and curse under your breath or cry out in pain. To play football and not have to worry about a broken arm causing you to ache for the rest of your life. Never having to worry about a phantom pain when the weather turns cold. Being able to slip on the ice and get up pain-free. Wiping away physical pain is something I often wish for when I am down on the floor and cannot pick myself up without the help of my wife, followed by many days of pills and doctors to stand up again. Sounds pretty nice, doesn't it?
Let's just pretend that physical pain is gone for a moment and take away the mental pain as well. Never having to feel that deep mourning when there is a loss of life. Not feeling like you'd also rather be dead than to live on without your child or another family member you were so bonded to, life without them not worth living.
Never having to worry about a relationship breakup as you could just walk away without feeling sad or angry. There would be no fighting placing the kids in the middle of the parent's anger. No pain watching the family dog grow old and fragile. Never having that gut-wrenching feeling selling your favorite car. Not losing friends over the betrayal of their or your misconduct as neither of you will feel that pain. Doesn't that sound nice?
According to the other aspects of life, pain is needed, a gift. You may want someone to ease your pain. I understand that and the want for it. I feel that you don't ease the pain, you overcome it........with the rest of life. Let's revisit pain.
Physical pain comes for many reasons, it is a sign that the body is working and letting you know there is something wrong. There is not much we can do with physical pain except for address it and treat it as best we can.
Mental pain is an amazing thing if you really think about it. All of those things I wrote above cannot be fully experienced if there is not first a great love, happiness, joy or general experience felt before. Buying that car. Loving that dog. Starting that family. The pain of losing any of those things is due to the love.
Don't let pain make you forget the joys of life. Embrace it, there's nothing like a little pain to remind you that you're alive and of the love, you have experienced.
Since you mention nightmare, it reminds me of how I like to label dreams in reverse of what they were when experiencing them.
If you have a good dream, in reality it’s a nightmare. You dream of winning the lottery. Being with the girl who you like but doesn’t like you. Being at the beach when you’ll be waking up shortly to go to work. Those are bad dreams once you wake up.
And reciprocally when you wake up from a nightmare. And you realize that you’re lying safely in your bed. In that moment your sense of relief should overcome the negative feelings associated with your recently deceased nightmare.
I do not dream, I've had a few sleep studies to try and figure out why but I skip the REM cycle that allows one to dream. I used to vivid dream growing up and my parents felt they were not good for me so they made me take a pill at night. I lost not only the vivid dreams but even small little dreams which were not vivid. I have the short sleepers gene and that may have been the way I was able to vivid dream, to begin with. I have tried many meditations and herbs to try and regain them but have had no luck so far.
I completely understand your thoughts on this and have often said the same thing to people recalling dreams. All things are a personal interpretation. The world is what we allow it to be, good or bad.
Wow. That’s crazy how you don’t dream anynore. Do you know what was in the pill you were taking?
No idea, they were prescriptions from 30 years ago.
The problem is the bad design of many activities. The hangover should come first (so that you control how much you are willing to bear) and then the high!
LOL, knowing the end result would never let you truly learn the real lesson. I do like the idea but one must learn in the proper order and fine tune the process.
Yesterday I had an opportunity to see my baby girl and I still can't express the joy I felt or how excited I was. But. This comes after years of laying in wait going through excruciating mental pain because I had no right seeing her. Pain sometimes can mean good things in wait :)
Thank you for sharing this...
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That's awesome, I am glad you were reunited after so long.
If you did not love her, you would not have felt this.
You make weird things make sense, old friend. Like how our pain is connected to our love...
It's all in there somewhere, I just need to let it out on nights like this when it flows.
Sometimes I think chronic pain hurts the people around you more than you yourself . That's one of the hardest things about it . On one hand it sucks the other you see so many blessings . I don't think I would change if I could . its just what I think .
I agree and say that same thing some days and other days, eating lead floats by too. Still here, still pushing on :)
@erodedthoughts Its never more than one day at a time . some days it's down to hours at a time . Have to push on the loss to loved ones is to great .
I'd never leave them by choice, ever. I have even been pushing through days avoiding pills experiencing every muscle feel like it's tearing and bunching at once.
I've done good, even fooling the wife most days. She only seems to catch me trying to come down or go up the stairs, no idea otherwise.
@erodedthoughts Most people don't realize that the pills are a double edge sword . and when you do take one it causes another side effect . Every pill has a side effect . I am lucky in the fact that I see a pain management doctor . he has had a positive effect and influence with my regular doctors and the specialists . But there are times when the pain pills come into play . especially now with all the hoopla about pain pills . But you have to avoid them as much as possible . my measuring stick is when i'm on the floor drooling , eyes tearing and the wife is crying begging to call 911 . sucking it up is a way of life . That's why we have big boy pants . I get pissed when asked "what is your pain level from a scale of 1-10 and 10 is the worst pain you have ever felt" as if we have something in common relating to pain .
Someone said that happiness and sadness is a mere mental state ...
So when we feel the pain but we can still control our mental condition to always cheerful, then happiness will always be with us ...
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It's all experience in which we grow. One could argue that there is no mental state without pleasure and pain to make the state mean something.
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Pain is part of our existence. Physical and mental, body and soul, that's what we are.
What's the point of light if there is no darkness to make you long for the "sun"?
But, living does not mean being stuck with pain. Pain should be experienced, justified and then set free to make room for the new experiences to come
We all need a little light and dark to function. Agreed that mental pain needs to run it's course and put on the shelf at some point. Whenever that occurs the love can come back, until then it is always tainted with pain.
Hi erodedthoughts,
Thanks for sharing this. I believe these are fundamental questions to address in order to exist in a wonderful way.
I think, from a physical standpoint, there is a big difference between pain and suffering. Physical pain indicates that there is an anomaly in the system, which is needed. However, suffering a physical pain seems to me more of a psychological interpretation of the physical pain, and that we can control.
Mind over matter works with little to no normal living.
I am one who is used to outdoor work and picking up 135-pound kids while playing and running them across the room or yard. I would argue emotional pain is much easier to ignore and overcome than physical pain. Much easier to turn off thought than pain receptors.
Interesting thoughts. But we live in the dual world experiencing the both parts . Can you imagine just taking breath and not letting it out? What would be the world without duality? That is the question. Permanent bliss?
You explained it well in the first part of your writing , pain is there to show us something. "There is not much we can do with physical pain except for address it and treat it as best we can." Oh, yes we can, if one wants it. If we understand the reason behind it and work it out, in most cases the pain will go. The point is that people moustly do not want to really see and understand things if this means that they have to change self, habits, beliefs, attitudes,...
As long as there is a way to fix it and the person is physically able to do so I agree. I did mind over matter for many years before finally going to the doctors when I went I had 4 major problems normally treated as someone suffered from one or two max. They wanted to do surgery the same week the issues were found. I elected not to, did all I could to avoid the surgery. I have had rounds of hospital stays on liquid antibiotics and one surgery to fix one issue. I walked out of the hospital within 1 hour of surgery when I was supposed to stay for 48 hours.
I am doing what I can to avoid three more surgeries. There should not be anything that is not fixable without the use of doctors. Living clean, fasting, meditation and exercise is still a losing battle. I have had the most success just ignoring the pain than with anything designed or recommended to fix it. Life changes cannot change errors in the bodies code, once there is something missing or torn and healed wrong no matter of mind or life change will fix it short of moving to a mountaintop secluded from the public and basic life. We all have to do what we can in the reality we live in and not one being sold to us in an empty self-help environment.
I understand. But, I didn't talk about ignoring the pain, but to understand the reason behind so that the cause can be treated, not effect. And of course I meant in most cases. Once when stepping on the path of effect, everything connected to that choice comes upon.
" Living clean, fasting, meditation and exercise is still a losing battle." Yes, you are right, as these are only prevention methods that do not mean that one does right in his life. That is the reason I said how important is to understand the message behind the messengerc(pain).
And what is to be done once the pain is identified and all recommended paths short of surgery are exhausted?
Unless you're saying the pain is a cosmic abuse against my soul for something.
I would never use the word abuse in connection to any kind of deffinition for cosmic power. So, I didn't mean that deffinitely. But, if you consider the evolution of a soul as a proces that takes many life times, then the whole picture is different. In my praxis I used to have clients with Chron's deseaze, suffereing tremedeously. Offically, it is considered as on of deseases for which there is no cure. Still, working some hard themes together, he came to realization about the reason behind. He understood it, accepted it and worked it out. From that point on, the deseaze began to withdraw. It needed time to bring the pendulum in the middle, but his experience is now that it doesn't belong to the deseases with no cure, but to the power messenger that he couldn't ignore any more, like he did with some before it.
I do not want to put any doubt upon your personal experiences. It has only been my try to give some additional information that eventually can be helpful.
The site that can be helpful in this regard is the following: http://www.ourspiritualnutrition.com/is06.html
I've been on track with this stuff since I was 7, reading things like The History of Health and Its Derangements since my teen years. I can not will away missing parts in my body nor make them regrow. I understand the logic in making something that is not supposed to be there go away like a disease. I don't think any amount of spiritual understanding will make missing bone regrow, do you?
Of course not
If you dont feel pain you would die and wont even understand it...now that am i writing about this it wouldve been wonderful to not feel pain...could have lived without the hassle..
Thanks for this amazing post