Minimal efforts and reposts

in #partiko5 years ago (edited)

I had a discussion not too long ago about reposting content and in particular maybe, photos. Everyone has a view on reposts most likely but I wonder, is it going to be the new norm anyway?

While I don't want to see the Twitter style of scheduled posts repeating through my feed twice a day, I can understand people posting some of what they consider their quality work from time to time. This isn't just because of the 7 day payout window however, it is more because an account like mine for example has gained a lot more followers over the two years and there is nothing wrong with showcasing work.

But in my case at least, I consider a repost only really valid if it is relevant and for what many people write, it isn't relevant even the next day. What about photos then?

I reuse photos quite often because I very, very close to exclusively only use my own and can probably count on one hand the posts I have used sourced images for out of the 2500+ posts I have written over the two years.

But, if I was only posting photos without adding anything extra, I wouldn't consider that value adding in any way and perhaps, highly detracting. It is akin to telling the same joke over and over and still expecting people to laugh.

The problem on Steem is that some people may have autovoters or circlejerk voters. This means the joke can be told over and over and the audience will laugh and, without adding anything extra, more comes out of the pool. In my view, this is not ethical Steeming but, it is up to the audience to decide what they vote, autovote and masturbate to in their circle.

However, with a lot of apps posting to the chain in very different ways these days for rewards like actifit updates, is it so bad to repost even photos? Personally, when I notice photos reposted with no additional value added, I am unlikely to vote and I am likely to unfollow if I see it often and with a too high frequency. What is too high? Dunno, but I know it when I feel it.

I have reposted articles that I think have been relevant from time to time and like I said, I do reuse photos as I have a limited selection and I don't have access to all of them all of the time.

However, I do think that a post has to bring some value to the Steem community in some way and the reposted photos lose their value quickly, especially if they are of random flowers that really do not take much effort to shoot. The high end photographers can get away with it perhaps for their shoots.

When it comes to my article reposts, I would much prefer myself to repost an article I spent hours developing and is still relevant than shitpost nothing much for reward. While a few people may remember the original, there will be plenty of people seeing it for the first time and hopefully, finding value in it. While I may not be the greatest writer in the world, by steel standards, I am far from the worst and I do think that it is important that at least occasionally some level of quality, thought and care is demonstrated.

There are many sides to this argument of course but the platform is in a constant state of flux and the culture and sub-cultures are always changing but, we have to remember that we want to make this the kind of place that many people can use. Having said that, it definitely doesn't have to be the kind of place anyone can earn on whatever they post.

Some people seem to think the idea of, free to post what you is coupled with the ability to earn on it. Yes, everyone is free to post what they want but there are no guarantees on earnings and, for every action there is a reaction. Posting whatever you want is tempered by, respond whatever you want to. Flags are a response also.

What I have found is that the people who generally act well on the platform can get away with a repost here or there and even a shitpost from time to time but, that is because they have social capital in their bank, people who know them and understand their is much more depth than an individual post.

Sometimes I find there is an attitude of you are only as good as your last post on Steem but, that is nonsense also. This is the thing I was talking about with building a foundation, a network of friends, followers and being part of the community. All of that is there so you are more than your last post, more than all your posts combined.

I still think the philosophy of Don't be a dick is the best path for most users if they are looking to be here long-term and enjoy themselves.

If you are going to repost, just don't be a dick about it, please.

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Sometimes i do repost photos but I always make sure the post under it is not the same as the formal one I have posted

Reposting photos is dependent on whether they are your too. All the sourced images are reposts too technically.

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Very well said. I had thought about reposting one of my older articles that I really like but I haven't done it because I didn't want to seem like I was spamming. It makes sense the way you said it though. As long as I don't get in the habit of doing it often I think people will be okay with it.

Also, you have a typo near the end. It says steem bit instead of steemit. Not criticizing, just letting you know in case you want to fix it.

Thanks. It was actually Steem but. I rarely talk about Steemit unless I must. Steem however, I say a fair bit :)

There are use cases for reposting content but it is easy for habits to form and people can get annoyed fast too.

I think i've re-posted a few images, but with completely different text. Discounting analysis/reports/tables (containing new data and still taking hours), nothing I have put into a new post is lifted from an old one, yet.

If the topic is relevant, and you have work from the past to cite or use, why not?

There is a lot of guff out there and so I think it's quite easy not to be a dick :)

Yep, if you have done the work, why do the same work again. It would be silly if you weren't allowed to reuse your algos.

I think it is the process of personal judgement of the situation but unfortunately, many people's personal judgement is shit these days. :D I am lucky I am pretty on point with my judgements.

Right.... off to the hotel bar to get hammered before getting up at seven for a full day of training alongside customers...

Right.... off to the hotel bar to get hammered before getting up at seven for a full day of training alongside customers...

Is this code for 2 more posts and I'm done for the day? :)

Maybe... One down at least :D

I am ok with reposting if it is done in good taste. As the steem prices rise so too with the shit posts and I fear reposting out of laziness. I think if it edifies the mind and person it is good. Intellectual benefit is good too. But to repost out of laziness to make a few crypto coins is wrong. Blessings - @tarazkp

I think you've summed it up quite nicely with the don't be a dick rule - it's fine to repost occasional quality content if it's relevant - ideally I guess you'd be tweaking it into a second edition.

As to re-using photos i think that's fine if you're doing a series of posts, almost like using them as headers, but if you're just re-posting photos alone that's a bit tragic unless they're award winners, and, as with text, unless you've modified them in some way to improve them.

If Circle Jerks are just going to upvote repeat photos at least all they're doing (besides ripping the rest of us off) is embarrassing themselves further.

I wonder if such people are aware that when they turn up to steem meet ups every single person who checks out their profile is thinking 'you scumbags' even if they keep it polite face to face?

I'm personally not one to repost something, although i do repurpose and refine material constantly.

On a more important note, how to summarise the rule - DD, or DBD, or DBAD?

ideally I guess you'd be tweaking it into a second edition.

I at least try to catch the typos and clean it up. What I find is that a lot of my work needs to be reworked. :)

I wonder if such people are aware that when they turn up to steem meet ups every single person who checks out their profile is thinking 'you scumbags' even if they keep it polite face to face?

Generally they aren't the ones going to the meetups. Most don't care it seems.

I think it would be like DDoS so, DBaD?

Oh I'm down with typos, I'm terrible.

DBaD looks good!

Kind of agree with you as I have looked at reposting relevant article with updates and addtional perspectives as I have found that when I started and engagement was much higher, they never got the attention they may get now. I think it is find for something rarely done or it adding value. It will be interesting to see how this goes when many users cone back after their initial disappearance!

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Yeah, I think it depends on type of content of course but yes it is going to be interesting when they come back. Have they learned anything new?

Reposting is not that much different from doing other things which draw from the reward pool without creating content. I have to be honest when I say I am not really pleased to see reposted content get rewarded, but I recognise that there isn't really much anyone can do to stop it.

One thing I have seen a couple of people do is to take content they've made before, aggregate it or summarise it in some way, and republish it with all together with value added. This is something that I not only find value in, but would actively encourage people to do.

One thing I have seen a couple of people do is to take content they've made before, aggregate it or summarise it in some way, and republish it with all together with value added. This is something that I not only find value in, but would actively encourage people to do.

Yep, this is a decent approach I think too.

Reposting content from other places is a valid and clearly desired functionality for social media. I suspect that the negativity toward reposting on Steem is hurting its adoption. I can tell you that I introduced several individuals to steem and none of them continue to use it. If Steem were like facebook in terms of lack of restrictions on what can be done, but with payouts for likes, they would likely have recruited other friends. The various steem front ends and apps also need to be easier to post quick posts and repost content than they currently are. To be honest, I think people who are against reposting are just snobs who are hurting Steem more than helping it--probably as they sell their SP to make money without actually contributing any meaningful content or curation back to the blockchain.

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. If Steem were like facebook in terms of lack of restrictions on what can be done, but with payouts for likes

lack of restrictions?? Facebook bans people daily for breaking their rules.

To be honest, I think people who are against reposting are just snobs who are hurting Steem more than helping it--probably as they sell their SP to make money without actually contributing any meaningful content or curation back to the blockchain.

You'd be wrong here. I don't like the constant stream of reposts and it is why i stopped using twitter and facebook as there is too much unoriginal nonsense.

I think it depends on who you follow. On facebook, I see all of my relatives posts, most of which are fake or of no value. As a result, I don't use facebook much. On twitter I mostly follow people who post original material or repost high quality material. There I really like the reposts.

To be honest, I would rather not read a repost. I think a link to the old article is more appropiate though I can understand why some people would repost because of the 7 day earning window.

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