Freedom of response, echoes and responsibility

in #philosophy6 years ago

A few days back I wrote about dancing and that during those few minutes, people tended to share parts of their life. This is not unusual, at least for me as I have always tended to be a sounding board for people's thoughts, ideas and feelings. If you don't know what a sounding board actually is, here are the definitions, I mean the second one.

Sounding board

  1. a board or screen placed over or behind a pulpit or stage to reflect a speaker's voice forward.
  2. a person or group whose reactions to suggested ideas are used as a test of their validity or likely success before they are made public.

Before they are made public is often a key factor as there is a level of trust that conversations are kept private so that ideas can be protected either from judgement or for patent reasons. The latter comes into play heavily in my work as I work with manufacturing and technology innovators who require a level of secrecy through NDAs and in some cases, background checks performed by the Finnish Security Intelligence Service.

But, there is something interesting that often comes up in these discussions (generally the personal ones) and that is many people have an expectation of what response is valid. What I mean is that often when people are talking about the things they are looking for opinions on, they already have an idea of what opinions they are going to accept and, if met with a differing view, see it as an attack on who they are, not the topic at hand itself.

Most people when asking for opinions aren't actually asking for opinions, they are asking for support for their ideas, not resistance. They are hoping that whoever they are using will give them a pat on the back for a good thought or, in the case of people who are upset, sympathy and a hug to validate their feelings as correct. They want an echo chamber that tells them they are right to think and feel what they think and feel.

Echo chamber

  1. an enclosed space for producing reverberation of sound.

For the people who attempt this with me with issues that require real attention, they are generally going to not get the responses they are after because they have already gone into the conversation with an expectation that they are correct. This is of course a conflict in itself as if they think they are correct, why look for validation of position at all? The reason is that they are actually uncertain and need peer approval and, if that doesn't come, they can get upset.

Recognize it or not, a great deal of our behaviors are driven by peer approval and how we think others are going to view us and of course, judge us. We engineer our public self o fit in with what we believe to be socially acceptable to increase our chance of fitting in and not being rejected. In this process however, what makes us valuable to the group (our unique perspective) can be lost and rather than an idea being cutting edge, it becomes average.

Part of the problem with asking for others opinions and taking stock in the response is that if who you ask is an average thinker who supports average ideas, the value that may actually be present in a thought can be completely missed by the sounding board. As I see it, a good sounding board isn't just to battle test an idea, it is to drive the thoughts of the person asking the question further than the original. Sometimes it may result in a regression to the average but, sometimes it may push to solutions that lay beyond. It is much like a psychologist's couch where the patient develops the cure.

But, having said that, most people just want to take a pill and, that pill needs to be easy to swallow. This means that many go into the conversation with the expectation they already have the correct treatment and expect the sounding board to prescribe what they already want to take. There is no problem with this if the treatment is actually going to lead them to where they want to be but, if it is unlikely and the prescription is a pat on the back and support, it can lead to some very nasty eventualities.

As I see it, if I ask someone for their opinion, I do not want to restrict them by having them feel they have to protect me from their response. I want them to be free to respond however they see fit so I am able to get their real views, not their watered down views designed to take the middle road. Most I find don't actually have the emotional control for this as often there is conflict between positions so instead of building an understanding of why the gap exists, whether it needs to be overcome and how one would go about it if it does, the response is to feel victimized and hurt.

How I see it though that this is a large part of the problem with the world as not only do we value the approval of a group who may not be qualified to approve, we become victims of those who have other ideas than our own. Rather than discuss, we close ourselves off to 'toxic people' and anyone who disagrees with us is classified as toxic. That means, anyone who is identified as different becomes a threat to who we are and that means, everyone is a threat depending on circumstance.

The problem is that there is a lack of responsibility at play. Rather than taking responsibility for the self and learning the skills necessary to be able to listen to differing opinions, consider them well and act upon or dismiss as relevant or not, people build barriers to information. They erect their echo chamber walls, fill it with sounding boards that are mirrors and create a safe space where they do not feel victimized, bullied or hurt by people who obviously do't know that how they think, is always correct.

And then they wonder why their experience doesn't match their imagined reality.

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Maybe the Echo Chamber mindset is inherent like a defense mechanism. It takes a serious will to be able to accept the opinions of others

To accept but to consider, just takes ears and a thought.

It didn't take me long to realize the number one topic I could write a zillion stories about is full of people on a echo chamber railroad charging down the track in defense mode, FP is full of people unwilling to accept the opinions of others.

lol you really have it out for FP. Am sure it must've been a misunderstanding and like I said -there are real victims on the group. Did anyone offend you in particular?

No, it's the hate mongering. Sure there are people who have had negative experiences but there's plenty who have had positive experiences or even mixed. But unless you hate monger you don't get any support from them, everybody must hate, hate, hate. Since none of them that I have seen have shown court papers even if they redacted their names you are only hearing one side of a story...the stories that make the papers are the stories where the real truth lays whereas someone was wronged by CPS and won their cases in court decisions. These parents weren't afraid of public acknowledgment of the charges, they were confident they did nothing wrong and they won. When you read story after story of all the wrongs and how it's CPS's fault and no lawyer will take their case....it's a sure sign that the problem lies with them and not CPS....way to many lawyers looking for a good payday, a solid case surely would not go unnoticed. (I am generally speaking of here in the US, most stories coming out of third world country stand a good chance of being true.) No one wants to admit they were bad at parenting, were making the wrong decisions or gave more credence to relationships they were in or to themselves then their own children but it happens all the time. Family protection encompasses the good, the bad and the ugly, there's no one way road. I know from personal experience, there's enough involvement and experience within my own family to know the difference. Some of us had good, some mixed and some really bad experiences but if I can't share the good with the bad it ruins the story as a whole. With them there's nothing good about CPS at all and there will never be any acknowledgment of such....even when you post stories of tiny babies who died at the hand of parents who CPS gave another chance to, stopped supervision or "failed to kidnap" them when they had a chance, those were the last three stories I posted over there, teeny tiny babies who died at the hands of their parents, those articles didn't get noticed or acknowledged, that's because they don't want to acknowledge that bad parenting happens, it's a fact and a reality but to them there's no justifiable reason what so ever for any parent to be monitored or their children taken, let alone the existence of CPS....even when the cost comes at the expense of societies most vulnerable.

I'm sure it is a defense mechanism, just a more grown up version of that 2 year old thing when they say "no" to everything and fall apart if you say no to them.
I think all it takes to be able to accept the opinions of others is to notice these things going on in yourself and take your emotional responses as more information instead of the entire reality of the world.
Defense mechanisms and seeing social approval serve a deep evolutionary purpose so it never really goes away, but you can outgrow being governed by it.

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Couldn't have said that better myself mate. People are terrified of how it is and want constant validation for how they would prefer it to be and may hell swallow up all those who do not agree. As the sayings goes, "don't ask the question if you're not going to like the answer" or "careful what you go looking for as you may not like what you find".

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Seriously, this is an amazing, well organized and personalized post on certian truths that are hard to swallow by most worldwide. The hive mentality is a big deal and your post made me feel, even thousands of miles away in America(your in Finland right?), that the world is inter-connected more so than ever and we are all truly in this together experiencing similar problems, with similar obvious solutions of ego and expectations.

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