Gold Goats 'n Guns Live -- Trump Ditches the JCPOA, What's Next?

in #politics6 years ago

The short answer for me about the Iran Nuclear Deal is that I don’t have an opinion on it as being either good or bad. It’s why I spoke so little about it. To me the whole thing seemed like a big show between two sides not willing to give up anything of value to the other.

Yesterday I traced a version of history that fits the facts and the motivations of the Obama adminstration and Iran. It helped crystallize for me just what is going on.

What has me worried is the aftermath of this deal and who wanted it gone. All the worst people want it gone now while all the worst people wanted it put in place then.

The question now is what price is Trump willing to pay for peace, if that’s his goal? Those around him don’t want peace, they want subjugation. That’s a non-starter for Iran and Russia. Moreover, these same people have been wrong about literally everything else, why would they be right now?

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I support Trump but I think he erred with the nuclear deal. There are lowlifes in his cabinet who are swamp creatures and want to see us perpetually at war. It's too late to back out but I hope they figure out a way to keep Iran in check without violence

I didn't really care about the deal one way or the other. It's obvious that nothing related to Iran is as it seems. But, the U.S./Israel/KSA are the aggressors here and they don't like that Iran was able to not only survive but then use the money to help fund its support of Syria along with Russia. This is what they mean by 'largest state sponsor of terrorism' Assad is an animal after all.

This is a hard one. I completely distrust the people who made the agreement, and I equally distrust the people that have shut it down. It's liar vs. liar, warmonger vs. warmonger. Do you trust the donkey of doom or the elephant of evil?

Too bad Ron Paul was robbed, back in the day. The US would not be in this position to start with.

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Agreed. That's why you have to look at the history and realize what the bigger game is. My article from the other day covers it in detail.

https://steemit.com/politics/@goldgoatsnguns/will-trump-pay-the-price-for-what-he-wants-in-syria

For more context:

https://steemit.com/politics/@goldgoatsnguns/saudi-need-for-usd88-oil-is-now-iran-s-problem

This is one of those things that you can't make a good decision on. Not enough real data. Too much fake data. And no one is playing with their cards shown.

We know the globalists want to mow through Iran.
But, we have a serious opposition to that. Catherine calls them the nationalists. Plus we are seeing a serious ... not anit-war movement... its more of a peace movement because we are just so damned tired of this war bullshit movement.

A group that is seeing through the propaganda, just as the propaganda is falling apart.

There are people who SERIOUSLY want war with Iran, but their cover stories aren't cutting the mustard. And they aren't saying what their real reasons are.

True enough. Again, I was never a fan or not a fan of the deal. I argued with a Jewish friend of mine who is also very politically savvy for days about this. And, frankly, in the end he sounded no different than Netanyahu and Trump. His hatred of Iran and Obama was so deep he couldn't see that it didn't really matter in the end.

The unfortunate part is that the MAGApedes have been flipped into braying for war as they support their Orange Jesus comes to save us from the evil Democrats and Deep State. These people believe Qanon is real, circle-jerk each other and have never questioned the idea of bombing and torturing people as part of their messianic crusade to rid the world of whatever evil the media puts in front of them.

Three years ago it was Kill ISIS! Today Iran, Syria and Russia have all but killed ISIS and now they are the enemy that needs to be killed, humiliated and suppressed. I'd like to believe you're right but I don't see it yet.

The deal aside, the entire ordeal does not reflect well on our allies trusting us.

If American can't stand by its treaties between presidencies, then why would anyone (e.g. N. Korea) even bother?

i am waiting for ...

I respect your opinion.

i am totally agree with u.

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