SPIRITUAL FOOD 4 THOUGHT - WHAT ABOMINATIONS ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH?
Most of the time, believers would agree with God when He calls something an abomination.
However, when it comes to animals that He classified as "unclean" and even called an "abomination," it seems that many beg to differ.
Is the dietary law really something that has been done away with, or something "only for the Jews," or does God still care about it. As we enter this next section of scripture, I share some food for thought ahead of time.
"WHAT ABOMINATIONS ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH?" VIDEO
Until next time…
STEEMIT LIKE YOU MEAN IT!
To everyone who may or may not be reading the interactions between bluerthangreen and I, I would just like to say I'm sorry and I apologize. I let myself get carried away into his game and I regret even bothering to reply to him. I knew from the start it would be a fruitless endeavor since him and I had a face-to-face conversation on these very matters for over 2 hours straight A little over a year ago . My views have not changed and neither have his. We are at an impasse, he believes it is okay to disobey, disregard and ignore the laws of God and I believe we should obey all the laws of God that we are able to.
Thanks @papa-pepper for another Food 4 Thought!
He that thinks it's wise to disobey the laws of God please show me an example from the Bible where God blessed somebody who disobeyed him. Show me an example from the Bible where disobeying God's law will gain you rewards in the eternal Kingdom.
“Whoever, then, breaks one of the least of these commands, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the reign of the heavens; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens.
Mattithyahu (Matthew) 5:19 TS2009
https://bible.com/bible/316/mat.5.19.TS2009
See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse: the blessing, when you obey the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I command you today; and the curse, if you do not obey the commands of יהוה your Elohim, but turn aside from the way which I command you today, to go after other mighty ones which you have not known.
Deḇarim (Deuteronomy) 11:26-28 TS2009
https://bible.com/bible/316/deu.11.26-28.TS2009
See, I have set before you today life and good, and death and evil,” in that I am commanding you today to love יהוה your Elohim, to walk in His ways, and to guard His commands, and His laws, and His right-rulings. And you shall live and increase, and יהוה your Elohim shall bless you in the land which you go to possess. “But if your heart turns away, and you do not obey, and shall be drawn away, and shall bow down to other mighty ones and serve them, “I have declared to you today that you shall certainly perish, you shall not prolong your days in the land which you are passing over the Yardĕn to enter and possess. “I have called the heavens and the earth as witnesses today against you: I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. Therefore you shall choose life, so that you live, both you and your seed, “to love יהוה your Elohim, to obey His voice, and to cling to Him – for He is your life and the length of your days – to dwell in the land which יהוה swore to your fathers, to Aḇraham, to Yitsḥaq, and to Ya‛aqoḇ, to give them.
Deḇarim (Deuteronomy) 30:15-20 TS2009
https://bible.com/bible/316/deu.30.15-20.TS2009
Will you choose life or are you going to choose death?
Bacon? I definitely heard bacon... And definitely like lobster, and bacon... And veggies...
But where indeed do we draw the lines? Huge question...
Interesting. You remember Acts 10:13-15?
@monotharch. Peter's vision was about men not food. You see the rabbis had created their own laws outside of the laws of God and had declared Gentiles unclean and Peter was adhearing to these man-made laws. God never declared Gentiles unclean so he had to use an example Peter would understand of distinguishing between clean things and unclean things. Peter gives the meaning of vision in verse 28.
If God never declared Gentiles as unclean, then where did a born again, Holy Ghost filled, Messianic Jew, get that idea from? Any why, did it take so long for Gentiles to be given the Holy Spirit after Pentacost? I'm sure there were Gentiles around Judea and Samaria that could have used the Good News. There is some spiritual food for thought...
@bluerthangreen in case you were unaware the rabbis are notorious for making their own laws and elevating them above the laws of God. Yeshua himself dealt with this on a regular basis.
Why do Your taught ones transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.
Mattithyahu (Matthew) 15:2 TS2009
https://bible.com/bible/316/mat.15.2.TS2009
Where did he get the idea from? That's easy, from the man made rabbinic doctrines. Please show me a verse in the OT where God declares all Gentiles unclean and tells Israelites to not associate with them, as Peter describes in verse 28.
Then he said to them, “You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation. But God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean.
Acts 10:28 NKJV
Ezra 6:21
Furthermore, God does declare Gentiles to be unclean. Besides the obvious inferences throughout the Torah, anyone (Israeli or Gentile) who became "unclean" due to some contact with that which was declared unclean by the Law, had to fulfil the prescribed sacrifices and washings and decontamination time in order to be declared "clean" again. By definition then, a Gentile, who never fulfilled the prescribed washings, sacrifices, etc was perpetually unclean.
That's just from a casual observation of what clean/unclean meant in general.
Here, in Ezra 6:21 God states
"And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had seperated themselves unto them from the filthiness (H2932 tumah, uncleanness) of the heathen (H1471 goy goy, nations, gentile, non-Jew) of the land, to seek the LORD God of Israel, did eat..."
In the Hebrew the words "of the" is not between "filthiness" and "heathen". Therefor, it is properly read "unclean Gentile".
That, besides the obvious observation of those who weren't allowed into the temple to have their uncleanness atoned for making the Gentiles perpetually unclean, is probably where Peter, the Apostle of Jesus Christ, got the idea that it was unlawful for a Jew to associate with a Gentile.
Yup, sure do.
I understand from that that God was telling Peter that things are different now (at least regarding ceremonial laws regarding clean and unclean animals (and people)). At least, that's how I understand it. :)
Why would what we eat be "ceremonial?" In the Old Testament they ate and it was "ceremonial," now we eat and it's a meal?
I'm just not sure how some people claim certain things are ceremonial, if you get what I mean.
Ok, Levitical law would have been the better word (or words). But it seems that something has changed. Are we expected to keep up temple worship? The same Law that tells us to keep from certain critters also make other demands. Where does one draw the line?
You're certainly comfortable with blasphemy. That's obvious.
Someday you need to understand that the Jewish law ended. Or do you still bring animal sacrifices to the priest at the Temple every year?
If you are ever up for actual dialogue, rather than you standard "comment and run" approach, I'd love to actually reply back and forth for a bit.
If you read the New testament very well and Acts in particular, then you'll see there is nothing like abominable food. Except you want to continue living in the old ways before the coming of Jesus Christ.
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Really? Could you share a verse that shows that?
The particular verse is Acts 10:15. But I urge you to the whole of Acts 10
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@ketcom. Peter's vision was about men not food. You see the rabbis had created their own laws outside of the laws of God and had declared Gentiles unclean and Peter was adhearing to these man-made laws. God never declared Gentiles unclean so he had to use an example Peter would understand of distinguishing between clean things and unclean things. Peter gives the meaning of vision in verse 28.