Moving to hive
Fuck you Justin, we're moving to Hive.
5 years ago in #steemit by practicalthought (65)
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Wonderful perspective. Despite the challenges I believe that the amazing Steem community will come up with solutions and this period will be looked at as our coming of age.
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I really appreciate the effort you have put in on forcing a dialogue on server costs. It frightens me that this topic was not one being analyzed strongly at the top levels. I was lucky enough to come across it in my feed as a resteem from FTG.
While it will be awesome of the community comes together and solves this issue that is far past my little knowledge on tech, I am hopeful that Steemit.inc will also throw their weight behind this and salvage this sight. It does not look good for the chain if the founders throw in the towel on what they are saying is the primary purpose of the chain. If they can't make this work, who could?
There is also the trust factor. I know there are many other apps, yet none of them even say who they are, how they can be reached. Nothing. I can't trust that with my keys.
I have often wondered the same thing! I have no idea what they really do in terms of 'marketing'. The big thing that holds Steem back in terms of mass adoption is 'ease of use' - mainstream users want something simple as an alternative to Facebook etc, and Steem is anything but easy when you join up!
I wonder if Steem could survive without Steemit inc... I know there are a few witnesses who run their own nodes, but this might not be enough. The death of Steemit could be the beginning of a great Steem future!
Not just marketing. I can actually respect they aren't shilling like some of the other chains. I am wondering what they have been doing not only in development, but analyzing the hardware. The post I linked to has an ongoing dialogue on inexpensive ways (on relation to how it is being does now renting from Amazon) to run the nodes. I am astonished there was not someone assigned (or a few someones) keeping track of this side of things. I am unsure of a lot, my ignorance a good part of that. Despite that, it still isn't adding up how we got here.
I've heard Ned as well as others after Ned saying it regurgitate a line like this:
They're talking about Steemit. A blockchain based application.
So why prove to the world it works, then take what works, and flush it down the toilet...
They should continue proving to the world what can be done instead of acting like they don't know what to do.
We're all valuable indeed. To the tune of billions of dollars if we're talking business sense.
I think Ned wears blinders. He allows people to walk all over him and exploit the UI here so those few charlatans can make a few easy thousand while we lose out on potentially billions. Billions and he can't even figure out a way to keep the lights on, while surrounded by thousands and potentially millions of light switches.
This is really gnawing at me. If this site sinks, it is an admission on what is NOT possible.
Of course, perhaps some of the naysayers have been correct and this was never meant to be more than a grab and dash. If so, perhaps they can be made to see what is possible if they view what has already been done as a valuable foundation for what many of us believed it is. I mentioned in another response here how they actually got money out of my wallet to invest. They don't understand how huge that is. I am a skeptic by nature, and if they can get this from me, so much more is possible. They have the power of many of us right here, right now. Yet it appears they do not understand what this means, nor what it could mean. Perhaps the money already in hand has filled their bellies and they think not of needing more. What a shame if this is the case.
I will give your ideas on your post more thought. I typically am not a huge fan of advertisements. My first impression upon reading it is one that has been recurring for me much this last week. I wonder why no resourceful person hasn't already implemented this independent of Steemit.inc. I hear so much of this great decentralization, yet I witness what is going on around me by those not ignorant of coding and such and wonder how much they really believe in it as so many want to set it and forget it.
We already have advertisements here, like I had said in that post. I'm not a fan of ads either, but since we already have the resources and the basics in place, I'm simply restructuring everything, putting things where they belong, and showing how to make a lot of money when things are organized. Those ads I'm talking about can be anything (you could spend money and have this post sitting as a banner within potentially thousands of other posts), the publishers choose (which is incredibly important under that model), making it decentralized, instead of the consumer being fed marketing propaganda, which is the type of advertising we've all grown to despise.
Love the post sir, love it - it needed to be expressed this way.
One thing this sensible perspective relies on however, is that the top users are all not 'in on it'.....
(of which I'm starting to have my doubts about...read @shepz1 posts on this).
If the total control of steemit is in the hands of a couple/few players, whatever we think, and our values of what we see in steemit, will mean nothing...
(I hope I'm wrong).
It is obvious that to some degree the majority of ownership is within the hands of the few. This was always known and has been one of the deterrents often cited outside the Steem ecosystem for why they would never advocate investing in the project.
Having said that, this does not mean that the system can't be one of greatness. Suppose the worst scenarios I see being touted are correct, such as from @shepz1. That this was all set up to be a grab and dash. That doesn't mean it has to remain as such. Does anyone think that any of the people running the other larger social sites would walk away from not only the birds in hand, but the potential for what could be?
While I know my investment wasn't a lot to many here, especially the self made millionaires who got in on the original mining, it was a lot for me. I didn't have it to spare. But I did it anyway, because of the potential I believed was here. I am a skeptic by nature, and that is a powerful testimony to what they could achieve here if they could get my money parted from my hand. They have an actual use for people like myself to open their real world wallet.
I read all of this talk of yay, decentralization. It will be the future. Yet the actions I see from the top does not reflect this sentiment.
How is it we are this far along and this is just now being talked of as a problem with the prohibitive costs associated with running a full node?
How is it none of the apps here mentioned their setup would be impossible without the subsidized nodes of Steemit.inc?
How, with all the talk of apps and projects being the future was none of these high costs discussed before now?
How is it that the top witnesses were not called upon to be running them in exchange for the high compensation they receive, especially as was mentioned in another comment here that they were at some point being paid even more but agreed to take less in exchange for less responsibility? That right there is a demand for more centralization. Just send me my money for showing up and setting these servers on autopilot with the least amount of effort as possible please.
I question if not one of them ever gave pause to what they were agreeing to, other than a quick momentary payout. There is much I don't understand, much water under the bridge that has set its erosion marks that can't be undone. Salvaging this project and keeping this interface with the chain alive has not passed under that bridge yet, and if my small squeaky wheel can get enough attention to get the grease applied to keep this going, then squeaky wheel I shall be.
Great post! Well stated and making excellent points. Sadly, I too agree it will fall on deaf ears.
Thank you. It is my hope that it will be heard and thought about. There is so much potential swirling here with this chain it is shocking to see how this all unfolded to end where it is right now. So much potential with this interface.
I get that it was intended as a demo for the apps they wanted to bring on board. Yet, something feels really off as to how these costs associated with running the nodes necessary for them wasn't one of the top priorities for solving. It doesn't appear they even experimented with solving the problem, and it makes me wonder many things about the mindset. As I said in another response here, whatever the motivations that got us here is past. But the future can still be written, and I hope that they will rethink the value of this demo and those of us who saw what was possible and believed.
Nice article! Thanks for sharing! I think they are hidden agenda that we will never know.
I hope there are able people who are trying to redress the situation.
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well said, i endorse same.
interface is everything... it's like first impressions in life, great thoughts