Moving to hive
Fuck you Justin, we're moving to Hive.
6 years ago in #steemit by practicalthought (65)
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Its not about expectations look at @paulag response here she explains it perfectly .
Yes, I read her explanation and it doesn't apply to what I am curious about. Her scenario with Udemy is not a good comparison in my opinion, as Udemy is set up for students to purchase courses/information, wherein this is supposed to be about building communities. However, I am wondering if this is really the case now. For every investment, whether it be time or money, there will be expectations. Let me explain.
Suppose I have you and four others at the top of my list of quality folks I want to interact with and grow here. Below you 5 say there is another 40. But 3 of you in my top 5 (and for this scenario lets say you are one of the 3) plan on bolting as soon as EOS releases their thing, or when one or more SMT communities come along. Those are the dreams of the 3 of you, not my dreams. My dreams/expectations are here on Steemit.
As you have mentioned yourself on your blog, there isn't enough vote to pass around to all the quality posts/people in our circles/communities (which flies in the face of the argument there isn't quality content here). So using the above scenario, as much as I love the posts you do, the work you do here I would like to know if you plan on jetting from here instead of staying and building. And if so, I would rather give the scarce upvotes I have to those who do plan on staying and making here last, making here a better place. One of those 40 below you who plan on staying and making this place the community. Because our shared expectations are more aligned.
I didn't join Steemit to play follow the group from one fad to another. And it is perfectly ok for everyone to have their own dream and do as they would. I am just curious what those dreams are for those I have been trying to build this with. Every one of you I have followed are bricks in my version of this community. Just trying to figure out which ones may be the cause of a faulty foundation for me. And in all fairness, I would make a horrible foundation for those wanting to jump ship as I outlined, as I am not going to be following them. And perhaps that's what most here are going to do, and if so definitely I will need to reshape my expectations.
Every time we log in, it is with some sort of expectation. There is always a reason we do the things we do. I have laid bare my reasons for being here, my expectations of the platform long term. Hoping to get some of you to share your own.
Thats a good question and deserves an honest answer
My plan has two options . 1) Steemit becomes a big deal and very successful 2) Steemit fails
I will be right here to see 1st hand which one happens no matter how long it takes .
I will protect my time or investment by powering up . either way Steem will still be there .
I will not vote for witness who are looking at any other option then Steemit . I will only support people or engage with those of like mind
This is a long term deal for me with no other option
I have been invited to other platforms by 3 people and declined . I do not jump from one fad to another . I have learned that the grass is not greener on the other side .
I have and are doing what I am doing in helping others and have not gone in the direction of self preservation at the expense of others and will not . I am trying to work smarter on this platform and help others do the same . Those who want to go I say , Bye - good luck
That's my take in a nutshell and I am not alone
Thank you :)
I thought more highly of Steem before I was on the end of flags by the plutocratic rich rulers. Then my hope faded. I thought things would be different than the real world, and it is, but it has some things worse than regular society. Plutocracy has it's limits compared to on Steem.
I don't know what the future holds, but I support some communities. I don't know how SMTs will change things for better or worse, I need to read the whitepaper on that to really get it more I guess.
Yes, Steemit Inc. doesn't care about us much right now, that's why they don't listen much to issues on the platform right now. It's all a mess and ppl are pulling in different directions. There is no way to correct things, because Steemit inc decides it all anyways and does what they want for the most part.
I remember you mentioning that to me before about the flags. I am glad that you came back and whoever was involved didn't pick up again with it. You are one of the leaders here I hope to emulate, if this place sticks around long enough. It is hard for me to rap my mind around all of these people delegating to vote bots to squeeze every last penny out of their stake, when they could be hand picking good people they align with to help out with the simple act of an upvote.
Before I began to understand this might be a short lived demo, or that most might bolt, I had pictured myself being that person who would hand out large upvotes and make a difference in the lives of people. Good people who need someone to make a difference for them for once. This place offers so much opportunity to be what just isn't possible in our normal day to day lives.
Speaking of which, I won't be around much for another 2 days. My delegation ended and I messed up putting in my order and have to wait 2 more days for the money to be released to me from Minnowbooster. I asked them in a comment right after if they could fix it, but has been almost a day now so taking their silence as my answer, hahah. Without that slider I go from 25/30 upvotes a day to 10, which goes quick.
Thanks for coming by and commenting/upvoting. It is a validation for me to be noticed and engaged with by one of your stature here. I found out quickly many of the more established accounts here don't got time to be slumming with the likes of me. It is a testament to your character that you don't view me based on my wallet, but by my character. Thank you.
I'm glad to see you think this through @practicalthought. We need more of that here if you ask me. I see some great responses below from some great thinkers, but I wanted to let you know that the more people that make these points, the more likely we are to some day be heard. Thanks for the post and love that you are thinking it in a constructive way!
I appreciate your response and resteem. You have become quite a leader here for those of us who have stuck around coming behind you. I was shocked to see I hadn't already been following you, as I became aware of your kind heart through your seeing through Brian getting his meds not long after you had done so. Since then I have seen you connected with Dustsweepers, as well as the exchange I linked to here. Your asking the tough questions, and ability to do so in a manner that invites truthful replies without it resulting in grudges and wars is a model to be admired.
I am hopeful that enough of us will grow strong enough that when the SMT market takes off that Steemit inc will still consider us a valuable project to continue working on, because so many of us stayed and made sure it grows in value. A value that shows what real communities working together and caring can realize.
Thank you for your kind words. They mean so much coming from you.
@practicalthought I could tell by your post that you immediate "got it"... I was happy to resteem because if people don't see the truth then we end up with everyone telling the king he looks good with no clothes.... I hope there are more of us that start to ask the tough questions (in a respectful way), because as Luke said it is "us that has unrealistic expectations". Only by "the little people" finding out and then working together where it makes sense, will we ever have a chance to influence the platform in any meaningful way!
Again, great post and happy to have a teammate! :)
I owe it to myself to do the best I can here on Steemit for my own personal satisfaction and development. And by so doing I hope to lift and sustain those I associate with. I am going to work as if Steemit is the best platform in the world, because it is for me right now, even considering the challenges and problems it has. I hope to be upbeat and positive simply because if I am not my performance suffers. And, frankly, energy rubs off and spreads...either good or bad. I really appreciate others who have good energy. It's more valuable to me than upvotes or anything else.
I do enjoy writing and communicating with people. I look forward to replying and commenting each day. (I've been a bit out of sorts for a few days but will get back into the swing of things soon.) My plan is to keep my chin up, and be clear eyed and level headed, as much as is possible. I will Steem on.
I too, have learned not to run helter skelter after every rabbit that runs by. Been there and done that. I don't have enough energy to do that anyway.
However, I like what @glenalbrethsen has to say. He seems to be very practical and level headed. Ultimately my allegiance is to myself and I must do what is best for my future. So if Steemit comes to a point where it is really not doing well at all, and it becomes apparent that it is going the way of the world (you know... ashes to ashes, dust to dust), AND there is a very good opportunity elsewhere then I will go elsewhere, hopefully with many of the friends I've developed here.
So there are storm clouds, and concerns. I don't want to amplify them so I won't. However, I too do not want to be the town fool and wake up one morning to find Ned packing his bag and everyone else is gone. So, I'll keep my eyes open. Frankly, to tell the truth, you guys are my eyes. I do appreciate and value your input and observations.
Oh, and let me add just one last thing. I felt that I was led to Steemit. There was a feeling of Divine providence for me. And so I do have that to consider also. However, one of the first principles of life is that things do change. I know that too and perhaps I/we will be led to greater things in the future. I simply don't know, but would not be surprised.
You know, that last paragraph describes what I've been feeling, too. And while things do change, I also know that even when Divine Providence is involved, in my case, it's not just handed to me. I might feel I need to do something or be somewhere, but I still have to show up and do the work. And I've got to mean it too. I have to try to shutter out all of the strange swirling rumors or doubts or whatever it is and just focus in on what I believe happened. That I was led her, not once, but twice, and despite all of the frankly nonsense that occurs here, there's been as much good coming out of here, too. And I've felt that as well. For the first time in a very long time I mostly look forward to getting up in the morning and coming to "work." And I feel like I'm supposed to be here. What that reason is yet, I don't know. Just like I felt I should go to school (or at least walk through that open door). But I've also experienced that what I hoped to be the last stepping stone was only the next one in the journey. So, whatever this is and whatever it's meant to be will be revealed eventually. In the meantime, I gear up and ride on. :)
Yes, thriving on Steemit may be in the stars for us. That certainly would be great. However we may be led elsewhere. For right now we are best served by playing the hand we've been dealt.
I think the desire to leave for those who appear to be champing at the bit is premature. In some of their cases, they are part of the problem here, and they will take those problems with them wherever they go until they realize that it is they who need to do some introspection and change. For the rest, it's wishful thinking, which may very well end up being rewarded for becoming the first movers.
Unless I'm directed otherwise, like I feel I was directed here, there's not a reason for me to leave Steemit to go anywhere else. As it is, my wife will have more to say about me leaving than EOS will. :)
It shows that you mean it in the way you conduct yourself.
I remember when I first got here, within the first day or so I already had people shilling EOS and they would have this greater platform. My first thought was what the hell are you doing here if this one sucks so bad in your view. I am thankful that while you rule nothing out (as who knows what the future holds) that for now, your all in here.
I tried part way in (not intentionally—I thought what I was doing was all in to start with, turned out it wasn't) so it seems to be all or nothing to try to get things going. I've been nudging that first domino now for over five months and it's budging, just not falling over. Story of my life, really, with only a couple of exceptions when it comes to earnings. So, I'm still picking away at it, hoping that it will either fall over or be whittled down to size.
Thank you for weighing in my friend. I feel like you are one of the blessings here at Steemit, a treasure that could be a powerful force in shaping the long term growth here. @glenalbrethsen is indeed level headed, which is why like yourself, he is in the top of those whose posts I look at first when I log in daily.
I remember when aol was thriving. I was late to the scene, aol 7 and new to the internet period. I was astounded as I had never seen anything like it in my life. My life a few years later pulled me away from it, and when I went back I was shocked to see a ghost town. Out of the thousand+ people I had grown to know only a handful were still there.
I can accept this is all just temporary, as most things are very temporary. But I hope it isn't. And I want my focus to be on those who will stick around even if many of the crowd seems to leave for the next temporary best thing. It seems to me that the grass is never quite greener, and if people would just put in the effort where they are at it would reflect the work put into it.
I will do whatever is within my power to make this a place where others I value like yourself and so many others will want to stay. I am just trying to get a feel for how many in my circle feel the same way. I appreciate your candid reply, but would expect nothing less from you.
You know here is another possible scenario: many people bail out to chase the White Rabbit, while those who stay are now among the truly dedicated, hard working souls. Seems to me there will be an opportunity in that. One's contacts and circle will be pretty damned dynamic I'm thinking. Like a few weeks ago when Steem was taking a nose dive... it was pretty quiet here but offered an opportunity to really connect with those who were still active.
The way i read this is they dont care about making things easier for first million. But early adopters do gain. Its a gamble which pays big if we win.
My answer to this question lies in loyalty.
Who, or what, am I loyal to?
Am I loyal to Steemit Inc. for creating STEEM and then overseeing one of the worst distributions in crypto history? For putting up a beta site that has some good things but is sorely lacking in many other practical functions, let alone anywhere near cutting edge technology worthy of a blockchain?
Or am I loyal to the ideal STEEM and other blockchains represent. Freedom, decentralization, and global digital currency without borders and without regulations.
Am I loyal to Ned and Dan and everyone else who has worked behind the scenes to keep things in some semblance of a working order, even when their interests lie elsewhere, with SMTs and Oracles and other things that could eventually dwarf the transactions and engagement happening on Steemit, where I'm trying to build my future?
Or does my loyalty go with everyone else I've been meeting here, the every day account holders, the ones who are juggling making ends meet now with the desire to provide for a brighter future. The ones who share my own desire to build up this site and its communities, rather than see it fractured and try to follow whoever does take off in a score of different directions?
Or does my loyalty ultimately lie with myself, my family, and those I have actually met in person. Those who have been with me for longer, in good times and bad, who have stuck by me and supported me even when they think I'm crazy for the decisions I make?
Well, I can assure you that my loyalties are stronger with those I really know and with the others that I regularly interact with here than they are with a corporation ran by Millennial millionaires wannabe billionaires. My loyalty also lies with the ideal of freedom, decentralization and global currency, wherever that might end up being found.
So, while there's nowhere else to go, Steemit is the place. While there's nowhere better to go Steemit is the place. And when some other place does exist, maybe I try it out to see if it's better, while continuing what I've been building on STEEM. And, if this other place proves to be the best, maybe I make the entire move there.
All I really want to do is write and earn something worthwhile for it. I'll comment and curate if needs be to help supplement the writing, but that's what I came here to do, and that's what I intend to do for as long as I am able and as long as STEEM and a way to put my thoughts down on its blockchain exist. I have no control over what happens beyond what I can personally do. So, I go on in the manner that I believe is best for me and for now, and probably into the foreseeable future, that is here on Steemit.
Ok, thanks for sharing your take on this.
Well said. Pretty much feel the same way. Blessings.
This one reminds me a little of something I wrote a few months ago, but the topic is slightly different: https://steemit.com/steem/@abh12345/am-i-stupid
My take is that we have been 'battle-testing' the technology, but that's pretty cool right? And it's made some people a lot of money.
Steemit will still be here, and you will find the same people through other windows into Steem, just like with busy.org and esteem at present.
It's also likely that your friends and communities will meet on other sites using the SMTs. And with Communities, this should be even easier and (hopefully) negate the 'need' for 'the double-edged discord sword'.
Fearing change is natural, but there is a plan and IF it works, good times are ahead.
People will come and go, but it wont be because steemit.com isn't here, it will likely remain as the premier front end to Steem.
In 6 months I think we will know what direction steemit is going to go, and if there is a future for STINC. I saw a news item that Microsoft has purchased git-hub, the open source repository. So the future may be no future we will just have to wait and see what Microsoft will do. I am not holding my breath, I remember IBM-dos and PC-Dos, then there was MS-Dos, so what happened to the IBM and PC dos after microsoft? Do you remember a small web browser call Netscape? Git-hub may be open source right now, but how long after the purchase does it take Microsoft to claim their Intellectual property rights and thus all the open source code on git-hub becomes closed source and a license needed from Microsoft to use it. I am sure nobody at STINC is concerned about it yet, but really when you look at past practices...with Microsoft...what do you see? Where is Word perfect...what happened to it...and a few other programs I can no longer think of. How many countries have tried to sue Microsoft in the past, how many still try, how many have given up...So I see this next 6 months as a holding pattern.
I will be curious to see what happens with Github as well. I suspect many are already adding their open source projects elsewhere. In fact, it might be smart for one of the blockchains (cough cough Steem) to create a platform to host an opensource repository to make it all immortal on the blockchain. Microsoft may own the repository, but they do not own the work placed on there. Just time to spread it out now so they can't destroy/limit/alter what is there currently.
The Github issue is not all the bad. Ivanontech explains it here:
Too late to give you any steem as I am reading this on the 7th day of your post. I have regarded Steemit as a good platform to help and connect with like minded people . It’s a shame the witnesses, and others view this as a big experiment when so much good has come from it. 🐓🐓
Hey, thanks for reading and sharing your view. Yeah, since writing this up I am resigned that this is little more than a demo. Especially given the TOS I see some writing about today in a popup (I still haven't had it pop up on me yet). Based on the descriptions, it appears they are possibly preparing us for the day they may dissolve Steemit. I am guessing that must mean the SMT's are close to being rolled out.
Hi I am from Thailand we have such a small community of the Thais and Laos. First I was here on this platform to earn money paid for posting. But after a while I realized that all friend in steemit is so nice and helpful for me since the start so I do the same thing to the newbie in my community also, I have no idea that where Steemit will go but I hope it goes to the great direction and last for long, I love all my friends on this platform even I have never met them.
This is what I am thinking about Steemit.
Hi @patinya103. Thank you for sharing your vision of a future here at Steemit. I not only appreciate your taking the time to read my post and respond, but am impressed with your ability to communicate so well in a language not your own. I hope you and the rest of the Thailand community will grow very strong here in the coming months and years.
Thank you very much 🙏😊 I hope you are the same too.