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Really? Show me some proof. I know several cops personally, and they all have an "above the law" mentality. Show me the cop who blew the whistle on corruption in the force? THAT is what honest people do. Cops? NEVER.

I'm really sorry if you had a bad experience with cops, it's really awful I was a policeman and with property I tell you not everyone has the bad intentions I'm a family man and I love God .. I can ask you what the world would be like if Policemen did not exist?

The world did not have cops until late in the 19th century. Why did it take 10,000 years after cities started? Clue: It wasn't public demand. It was for public control and protection of an elite at taxpayer's expense. Cops started out with a bad reputation but thru govt. ed and the media that was changed by propaganda. Radio Pictures/RKO made my favorite movies because of real dialogue and scripts that showed it like it was, e.g., the cops in "Maltese Falcon".

The world did not have cops until late in the 19th century.

This is factually incorrect as the first modern police force was created in London in 1829. 1829 is not late in the 19th Century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police?oldformat=true#In_London

Why did it take 10,000 years after cities started?

There are examples of people doing many of the same things as modern police forces. For example, in ancient Athens publicly owned slaves were used for crowd control; Roman vigiles apprehended thieves, runaway slaves and were supported by Urban Cohorts which were heavy anti-riot troops; you had the British constables and Santa Hermandades in Spain during Medieval Europe; Paris created a police force in 1667.

In summation, your claim that there were no cops before the late 19th century is factually wrong on its date for modern police force and factually wrong on the existence of such offices prior the late 19th Century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police?oldformat=true

It wasn't public demand.

Then explain the voluntary policing organizations such as vigilantes and night-watchmen.

Edit: I use a Chrome extension that reformats Wikipedia into a reader friendly format. It is called Wikiwand. However, as not everyone has Wikiwand I wanted to change a source from Wikiwand to Wikipedia.

I stand corrected. Sorry, I misremembered. Put in context, how important is this compared to the 10 millennia I cited?

It doesn't really affect your argument except for that one part which wasn't the main thesis.

Well, around here it would be like JACK YANTIS WOULD STILL BE ALIVE. The lady in New Meadows would not have been raped. That is just in the past couple years AND THIS IS A TINY COUNTY.
Self governance is how we ALL function every day. It is a sign of the arrogant delusional state MOST cops live in that you think the rest of us are good people because of laws and cops. We are good people because we are good people...

You cannot make claims such as person X would still be alive or person Y would not have been raped if cops didn't exist. They may be alive and unraped or someone else may have killed them or raped them.

COPS would not have raped or killed them if there were no cops.

Cops would not have but that is no guarantee that they would not have been murdered or raped by someone else or even by the same people.

No, these people would have had no reason to interact. The cops used their delusion of authoirty to detain these people and then abuse / murder them while they were defenseless and the cops were armed. They were excused from justice by the "justice" system, which only happens for cops.

I am not excusing the actions of the cops and I agree with you that it is BS that cops, being part of the criminal justice system, are excused of criminal behavior by the same system they are part of. What I am contesting is your claim that they would still be alive or unraped today if cops didn't exist. You cannot make that claim as there still exists the possibility that they would have been killed or raped if cops didn't exist. You simply cannot make any reasonable or accurate predictions about what happens in alternate timelines/universes. That is my point of contention.

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