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RE: A bidbot for the people! Introducing @msp-bidbot.

in #bidbot6 years ago (edited)

One another paid bot? You just finally destroyed my belief in the fair distribution of rewards here.
Is there really not enough bots supporting shit posts? Soon there will not be place for humans. I noticed that after the appearance of large number of bots, people stopped giving their votes to other people, preferring paid bots and voting for their own posts and comments. The quality disappears, giving way to the prepaid gray mass. Are these the same values promoted by P. A. L?

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That's already happening. It's a consequence of HF19 and linear rewards. i can't change that. What I can change is right now only whales benefit from this system. I'm making it so everyone can.

So lets join in and help sink the ship?

And aren't you a witness??? Who else is in a better position to change it???

@aggroed is one of 20 witnesses. It's not entirely up to him. He/I spent several hundred dollars trying to block HF19 from happening by calling it a clusterfuck.

The bad news is we have some programs like bidbots that can change how rewards are reflected. it's just a tool. If it's supporting shit posts that's bad. If it's supporting good content it's good.

The good news is that @utopian-io wouldn't exist without HF19 because it relies on linear rewards too, and that's arguably one of the best initiatives on the block right now.

If we're going to be in HF19 then the right thing to do is to help everyone benefit rather than just 8 whales. there's a discussion board on the steemitblog right now. If HF19 is changed then this will go away, but as long as it's HF19 it makes more sense to help everyone run a bid bot rather than just letting 8 or so whales do it.

MS, maybe this is gonna be a question a little bit out of your bot thing, but anyway...do you know, how can someone who makes a post, and gets a lot of upvotes including some bots, get paid from that post lower as it was shown the whole 7 days? Lets say someone's post got upvotes and is worth $15. On the 7th day, when payout is done, you see that it was worth $13 minus curration awards ($3), and you get $10 out. Now did those 2$ get legs on the 7th day or is that something that was written in HF19?

I'm not entirely sure. It might be changes in steem price at the time. your math may be off. I'm not sure.

That happened to me few times already.

Yep, that always happen. I have read somewhere that our rewards are distributed to other trending posts in corresponding to collective vests. If you notice on each of your post...your post will always decline more than you expected it to be.

in the end all the work, article writing and editing, will not be profitable any more, and all steemians will just trade...

I'm not sure utopian relies on linear, since it changed to vote based on what the community already votes... But I'm still learning and hopefully you can help educate me

Good motives, you are trying to help minnows, but something is wrong in this system. There must be another way to challenge the whales bots.
It seems to me that in order for Steemit to move forward and become better, it is necessary to stimulate the activity of users, motivate them to create quality, to vote for each other - to teach them to give, not just to take.
Sorry for the criticism, nothing personal, I just lost all optimism about the future of this platform

Well, you can always go to facebook and get rewards there...

Steem isn't perfect, but this place is growing over time, and since I've been here the value has risen 5x. WE'll figure out challenges as we go. For now bidbots are a thing. We'll see where it goes.

If use of the bot is limited to registered users and an anti-abuse policy is enforced, this can actually HELP reduce the level of shitposting. I think.

The only way to avoid abuse is manual voting based on how the manual voter enjoyed the post.

Or a curation team said voter entrusts with his vote. I don't know much about open source, but I support utopian by upvoting their posts, for example.

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