Great interview, the working frame theme, bring many interesting complementary workable information which is very appreciated.

If life really is kinda "bridged" to, for example, body and mind, living inside/outside can found other terminology in free occult books on the internet as on 8ch.net, which is by luck, very well recommended with the book "Designing freedom" by Stafford Beer.

Unstable peace is physically considered as chaos, as "reverse-entropy" lifeforms seek for order at the horizon of order and chaos holding the conditions for life, freedom doesn't exist in physics.