The @null.promoted experiment.

in #burned5 years ago (edited)

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The idea is to give more exposure to Steem's amazing built in post promotion system by replicating the content of the top promoted from https://steemit.com/promoted/ onto a dynamic post promoted into the regular trending.

The service checks every 60 seconds if the top /promoted/ post has changed and will replicate it's content within the fire bar template.
Every 24h a new post is created and may get promoted into regular trending using @Steemium promotion tool.

The previous post will be become frozen therefore there is an extra benefits to being the last to burn promote a post.
If any distasteful content like pornography end up in a frozen post (after 24h) the post will be edited.

Each replicated post include a header that give credit to the author and link to it's post.

A footer explain the post content is dynamic and that the comments on content may become irrelevant.
Any profit is earned from upvotes will be kept and used to pay for further promotion.

To get your content more visibility using this promotion method simply send SBD (not STEEM) to @null account with the memo of the permalink of your post. The permalink is what's after steemit.com/tag/

For example the permalink of:
https://steemit.com/palnet/@buckydurddle/around-the-block-with-guest-elizabeth-powell-of-steemit-inc-episode-1
is
@buckydurddle/around-the-block-with-guest-elizabeth-powell-of-steemit-inc-episode-1


To know how much to burn to get your post up top click there :

To Steemit.com 1 SBD = 1 USD so > 0.210 SBD in this case.

For more detail on the @null promotion mechanism see this post from Steemit. : https://steemit.com/steemit/@steemitblog/introducing-promoted-content



Again, This is an experiment so feel free to leave your comments and suggestion below or come chat about it in the #nullpromoted channel of Steemium's discord. https://discord.gg/wVH88m9

Thank you.

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This post is dynamic, it contain a replica of the top promoted post at https://steemit.com/promoted/

To claim this spot with your content or learn more check this post.

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Why not just give the top promoted post an upvote from you or your bot as an extra reward for burning tokens to promote content? Why duplicate or link to another post and then upvote that? I’m not sure how that entices people to use the Promoted feature.

Because nobody's checking /promoted/ and buying the votes of sellouts make pumping these post to top trending affordable.
Feel free to give an upvote to null.p featured posts, they're from people willing to provably commit real money to give exposure to their content.

Nobody checks Promoted because it’s a poorly implemented feature. It needs to be fixed by STINC - or other interfaces need to step up and make it a viable feature.

But I still don’t see how this method will work out better for the people using Promoted. I think this is more likely to receive backlash, as other users will see the duplicate or link post as a low-value post that’s over-rewarded.

Put pressure on STINC and other interface owners to create a better promotion feature for users. I think that would yield far better results in the long-run. It’s definitely something that could/would be extremely beneficial.

Last null promoted posts were staying there for weeks with about 2 cents burned.
Replacing top spot by burning a few cent or low dollars sounds like a simpler deal than committing 100$ into dozens of promotion tools.

None of the other interface have even implemented the top burn page. So in the meanwhile that's better than nothing and certainly gets the ball rolling.

Should chat with the @steempeak devs. They are really good at getting things done.

They are probably one of the few groups that get stuff done on this chain without massive delegations.

They are pretty much the only frontend that even attempts to accommodate all the SCOT stuff happening.

Yes, Steempeek devs are impressive

We're already on it.

Wrote a document about what we plan to do and how we think it can be decentralized as we hope other interfaces also take it up and hopefully we can get steemit as well to change up their system just a bit to accommodate it. But regardless it's something we're planning on doing.

In fact PM me and i'm happy to share the document if you guys are into the subject so you can give some feedback.
CC @enforcer48

I thought promoted feature is on blockchain level, not just UI. I agree.

I share my thoughts on it in more details here: https://steemit.com/newsteem/@geekgirl/pu8605

The burning of tokens is a blockchain function, but how the posts are displayed is certainly an interface issue. There are ways for interface developers to put promoted content into normal trending and hot lists. It's just not done, unfortunately.

Not like people would flock to use it because of this anyhow.

Probably makes more sense for new features like <account name>'s curation feed to be implemented on the frontend than continually trying to fix the broken trending and promoted feature.

SteemPeak has something similar, but I would prefer a way for me to directly display someone's feed as a normie.

For the Steem you get from upvotes to have any value the token has to be used for competing for attention.

Most burned to @null is one way, Time will tell how effective it'll be.

So, are you going to share the rewards with the original authors?

burning tokens

Any profit is earned from upvotes will be kept and used to pay for further promotion.

Sorry about that! But I do think this one answers you:

Every 24h a new post is created and may get promoted into regular trending using @Steemium promotion tool

It doesn't state it uses author rewards, but considering the costs, I assume it does.

Assume that votes cost more than they're worth and think again if your question make sense.

I'll try making it clear what post to upvote to support the authors.

112.67$ has been spent to promote this content using Steemium.
Learn more here!

If you are really interested in fixing promoted, you probably could do so single handedly by doing what ats-david suggested. If you lead many might follow.

I shared possible fixes for promoted in more details here: https://steemit.com/newsteem/@geekgirl/pu8605

If you're talking about upvoting those who burn tokens,

That's not gonna work as it doesn't give extra attention to the content. Burn money to earn money? Why don't I just burn for them while at it?

Creative solutions are appreciated and I'm happy you are brainstorming.

I've downvoted the post, while your intentions are likely good the approach is not well thought out and the instructions are confusing.

:)

You just denied money to someone who is putting their time and money trying to make steemit better because "his idea wasn't good enough for you". No wonder we barely ever see any new apps around here when people who are trying hard get hated on.

He'll be okay. The comment wasn't hateful. The money wasn't his yet, and he would agree.

!dramatoken

:)

I know, it's just the principle behind it...

The principle behind me using my own stake to influence the site for about .20 cents adjustment, leaving a polite comment bothers you in some way?

That is exactly what the site is designed to do from the Blockchain to the UI.

Like I said, it's the principle behind it. Not the technical or financial details. I understand what you mean tho.

Well good played, now you can push your troll token. Which is btw what seems like your real intention from the beginning. Hard to take your criticism serious which is a good thing probably. Good job, better comment.

Check the null account's wallet to see how much is being burned.

Check out how pretty the trending page looks with RedFlames

Check out how he is using his own bots to upvote this service.

While he get's end-users to burn their SBD. Most people will not ever make it back to the Author's article.

I don't mind that he is brainstorming, and if I have feedback.. I'll give it.

Yes, my DRAMA token could be considered a "Troll token". :)


You've got DRAMA!

To view or trade DRAMA go to steem-engine.com.

What part of the instructions are confusing? Are you confused after reading the post from Steemit?

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