RE: Managing Bad Behavior Via Flags, Social Pressure and Stake
Theres two completely different things going on right now. One we have this with the spam and need a way to control it. And I agree, we do. It's a major problem, and one thats going to remain and will continue to be a problem, probably a bigger one as more and more people get into the system.
And we are trying to expand it, hell maybe even bring some politicians in. But if they are barraged with so many comments in their posts that are just spam and flags, why should they stay? Why would they stay? We can't even get mad at them for not wanting to remain here.
A blockchain level moderation tool would go against the free speech and no censorship aspect that we are promoting won't it? It's a tough question, but one we must answer. Raise RC costs to a point where spamming isn't possible? But what about all the new people? What does that do to them? They can't interact either.
It's a tough thing, and we need to come to a conclusion and somehow stop the spam.
I think per account blacklists would be a good thing... Don't wanna see player x y or z? Anything? Block em! Problem solved. If anything looks off on any posts or analysis... It was the blacklist accounts likely down voting or otherwise. Give an option to allow people to inspect a players blacklist and easily add or remove to their own. Could all be done with json. ^>^ just getting apps to use this method.. that would be a hurdle, but a viable option.
I'm more than willing to discuss specific logistics on this method. Lots of things to think about.
But that sort of invites people to steal from the rewards pool from bots even more. Don't want some of the cleanup initiatives downvoting you? Blacklist them. I think more of a frontend solution would be good for now. If nobody can see the spam, whats the use of doing it?
Only for visibility on your frontend. Not on the block chain level.
Oh yea, it's a solid idea. Theres a mute button on steemit :). Mute is on a chain level, though I don't know much of what it does, assume its for frontends to use as they please, probably done the way you want.
I guess it's been awhile since I noticed. Hahaha. Totally forgot that was an option, never clicked it tho....
I've said from the moment that RC was introduced that it wasn't properly balanced. New users can't post more than once every so often with the delegation they get from Steemit, yet big users can spam the fuck out of everyone. The curve is too sharp. It needs to be made where it's harder for accounts to spam, and they need more and more RC to do so, but new users can at least interact to a normal degree.
RC is linear right? Why not have it be logarithmic like reputstion? But not as strong as that.
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It's a problem needing a mathematician and a lot of data to minimize the abuse while still allowing legitimate services. The minnows aren't nearly as big of an issue as the bots. But here we are so much time later and minnows still have RC issues.
I just delegated to a minnow the other day who was asking about RC, because I think they should at least have a bit of a better chance to start out. Even if they just turn out to be another one of the masses posting crap...at least they had a chance.
Definitely the case with helping newbies, I even working on a tool to simplify the process it for them (https://giftgiver.me, basically put in your username and as long as your RC are low enough and you aren't blacklisted, you can get 10 SP delegated to you). Without helping them, we can't grow and new users are what we need. But people aren't going to like whats going on with the spam and then realizing they can't interact themselves will frustrate them even more.
And thats true. Someone much smarter than me will need to look into the RC stuff. Hopefully we can help curb the abuse.
That's an awesome project. I had been thinking about projects myself to try to do delegations to minnows to help with SP, but I don't have the SP myself, so I have been trying to figure out how to deal with that problem as well. Haven't gone past the idea phase quite yet because it takes quite a bit. I guess it's likely that quite a few people have thought about this problem and what to do about it. Most are probably in a similar situation to me, where they aren't quite sure where to get the SP to delegate. Though perhaps with me it might have even more to do with not having that amazing idea that motivates me to start working on it. Best I can come up with is a tool to somehow let people auto-delegate to minnows that show worth somehow.
I shared info about your tool with a mod on steem.chat that often deals with minnows, suesa.