Why do some Christians say they have a god given right to have a gun.

in #christianity6 years ago

This work is based on a reply by me to a question on Quora. It is reworded somewhat. The original link is here:

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-gun-owners-say-Its-my-God-given-right-to-own-a-gun-Where-in-the-Bible-does-it-state-that-Note-that-I-don%E2%80%99t-want-your-guns-taken-away-I%E2%80%99m-just-curious-about-that-statement-and-why-it%E2%80%99s-said/answer/Alfred-Montestruc?share=d3fb89f5&srid=ua3hK

Quoting: Luke 22:34 through :37 King James Version

“And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.”

“And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.”

“Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.”

“For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.”

Ending quote of the King James Version of the Bible of (supposedly) direct quote of Jesus during the last supper. Clearly supporting a human right to keep, bear and carry arms.

Guns were not invented till circa 1200 AD, and guns that could be carried around in a ready to fire condition were not invented till circa 1500 AD, but that is not important. Guns are arms, the Bible and explicitly Jesus as quoted in the Bible supports a human right to bear arms.

This work was originally an answer to a question, that answer is and was intended LITERALLY. As in where in the bible would a Christian look in the bible to find support for the idea that he has a god given right to bear arms.

Yes I support a human right to bear arms, and the 2nd Amendment.

I hold that only totalitarians seriously think disarming common people of a nation is a reaonable or morally acceptable idea.

No I am not especially religious, and my religious beliefs are none of your business.

Due to a reply, I looked up a lot of things that people might be interested in if they found this post interesting in the first place.

My reply to someone telling me I am misreading the “plain English” of Luke.

Actually no, the Gospel of Luke was written originally in Greek, and was translated later into other languages.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Luke

It is also a lot more complex than that. Luke was not following Jesus around writing down what he said. Luke was not there in fact, Luke is one of the followers of the disciple Paul. So the book of Luke is a second hand account at best, of Luke writing down in Greek what Paul years later remembered what Jesus said in Aramaic.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_the_Evangelist

Note also that as best I can tell, of the books of the New Testament only those of Matthew and John the Apostle (not St. John the Divine) are by one of the original twelve apostles who actually met and spoke with Jesus as a living man.

Many Christians wrongly think that everything written in the New Testament was written shortly after the Crucifixion by living witnesses. That is just not true.

The book of Luke was written down years later in Greek, probably from Luke’s memory of what Paul told him years after the Crucifixion. Also important is that most of the time, if not all of the time Jesus spoke Aramaic, which definitly is not Greek, nor a Greek related language. Aramaic is closer to Arabic or Hebrew. It is an “Afro-asiatic” language while Greek is an Indo-European language, as is English.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_of_Jesus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Palestinian_Aramaic

Furthermore, English did not exist as a language then. English arouse out of a Germanic dialect in England after the Norman invasion in 1066.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_English

One can legitimately argue as to what Jesus actually said and meant as this is Luke’s account was written long after the fact, of what Paul remembered, translated by Luke (probably) from Aramaic to Greek.

It is well accepted that Jesus said, (paraphrasing) It is better to be naked, than unarmed.

As most Christians hold that literally, he was, and is, god, that makes it a god given right to bear arms.

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Our rights come from God. They don't come from any government. Jesus told his own disciples to arm themselves:

(Luke 22:35-36 NIV) Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. {36} He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

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