What if We Could Put a Post to the Top of Trending WITHOUT Buying Votes? Here's How I Think We Could Do it!

in #community6 years ago

First, let's get this out of the way, "what's in it for me?" right? That's what you're asking. Well, a lot, perhaps.

  • If you help promote this project, your blog will be promoted right along with it.
  • You will gain followers and upvotes
  • You could win a big fat chunk of $BD, if we succeed.

I'll explain it all in a minute. First, let's talk about how this goes down, shalll we?

I want to conduct an experiment. Can we, the plankton and minnows of steemit, put a post at the top of trending? I've been working to prove it's possible for some time now, without seeing it happen in quite some time. There are several challenges we'll have to overcome to get there.

To set this up, first, let me say we'll be using a plankton account, @dolphinschool as our launching pad. The entire platform there is designed around helping plankton become minnows and minnows become dolphins. I'd teach you to become a whale, but I haven't done that yet, so I'll do it when I get there!

  • I want to do it from bottom, that way you can see how you might accomplish the same thing.
  • I'm looking to launch a new bootcamp at the end of this, and those that help will get first preference to be on board!
  • If I do it from this account,we might pick up whale support, and kind of skew the results.

It's going to be an uphill climb, can we make it?

I'm not sure. That's part of what it makes it so exciting! I think we can, if everyone will really do what they can to help. With a few hundred of us working together, surely we can gain the attention to get more votes on board and carry it the rest of the way.

  • Hitting a meaningful spot on trending will require at least $50-75 in upvotes. Without buying votes, this could be one vote, or hundreds.
  • Keeping it on trending will require sustained promotion once it's up and running. I'll take any help with that I can get.
  • The price for entry is steep, but the rewards could be big too!

I promise you this, if @dolphinschool wins, we all win, because I've dedicated that profile to helping as many Plankton survive to become minnows and then dolphins as possible!

So, what kind of post should it be?

I've got ideas, as you know, but, I want your input here. I'm thinking we just go straight for the jugular, like, "Here's How This Post Got on Trending Without Buying Votes!" But, would it work? I'm not really sure.

I'm kidding, my best idea is an article titled something like, "The Power of Community on Steemit"

The post itself will be a declaration of the power of the little guy. It will include a list of links to any blog that helps support the project, with your best post front and center! If that means 200 links, or 400 links, then so beit! I'll keep editing the new ones in as people sign on! If I have to edit it ten times a day, I'll do it!

I'm going to run a series of these articles through some friendly accounts that will gladly help promote us and see how much attention we can get over the next several days, then on Sunday, the article will be launched from @dolphinschool.

Once the article is in place, we will promote the heck out of it! I'll be using Steemit Facebook groups, Steemit chat and I'm working on getting into Discord more. But, again, here I'm open to suggestions.

  • If every person also resteemed the post, it would help to spread it.
  • If we are offering a portion of proceeds to participants, @moneyinfant can add it to the contest list they run, there are probably others.
  • Promote it to curation services and others that share content.

Whatever else you can think of to help make it go, leave me a comment. I'll take as much input as I can. Not all of the ideas will probably get put to use, but this is brainstorming people, share!

Great, good feels, altruism, blah, blah, blah, show me the money!

I said I'd explain and here it is. By joining this project, you'll get the following, provided you help do the heavy lifting (promoting, upvoting, etc)

  • Your name in every post related to this project
  • A chance to promote your blog and your best post linked from the project post, which we hope goes viral!
  • A chance to win half of the $BD the project post earns. There's no way to know how much that will be.

But, wait, Mark, what's in it for you?

As always, I have my own motives. I'm not trying to hide it. I'll be keeping half of the payout to further my work here. But, beyond that, I'm hoping to get the following.

  1. I want to prove we can do it. Just because. That's kind of who I am.
  2. I hope to gain more followers throughout this process. Always.
  3. Promotion for @dolphinschool. I haven't put as much time into it as I want, but it's hard to do when the audience is small and the payouts are not enough to cover the time.
  4. I want to see some of you gain exposure through this project. It's going to be a seven day push, and I'll promote as many of you as I can!

So, where do we start?

We're starting at the bottom, so, let's have a conversation. Got an idea of how to make this work? Great! Add it in the comments. Want to "sign up" to help? Great! I'll be making a list of everyone that says they're in over the next couple of days, I'll add it to ALL posts on the topic. Let's call it #projectminnowvote and use that hashtag as one of your tags if you want to share about it!

As a part of this, I want to encourage as much interaction between all of you as possible. So, go, follow each other, upvote each other's posts, comment, resteem, whatever! Let's start some buzz!

If this works, people, we could build a network capable of making this a regular thing!

I'm not a huge fan of automated curation, or renting votes. You know that, but a weekly post, with comment links to any posts deserving a boost, could be huge! Imagine a weekly post that got 500, or 600 upvotes, with 100 comments, all saying, hey, take a look at what this account over here is doing that's not getting attention!

Then, what if the highest voted comment/link got our attention for a few days? Could we change trending? Maybe. I think it's worth a try.

Here's what inspired this.

Last night I was looking over my posts and feeling pretty good about the interaction, but I got stupid and clicked into Trending. I started looking at the posts sucking so much of the reward pool up. And you know what I found? They're not special.

In fact, the one thing they all had in common? Paid votes and a LOT of them. Some of them paid more than $200 SBD to get there, something many of us cannot afford to do.

The bigger problem for me, though, is the poor quality of the content. And it's what visitors are attracted to first. It's the pattern that's being set for success here on Steemit. Is that what we want? I don't, so this is my response.

SO, are you with me? I can't do this without you. Leave your name in the comments if you'd like to be tagged in future posts on this topic. There will be no minimum requirement for participation, other than an upvote on the final project post. So, what do you say?

*If you're in here are some ways you could help promote it!

  • upvote this post,
  • resteem it,
  • write a review of it on your blog,
  • make a promo image and put a link to it on Steepshot, or Dmania.
  • Make a video about it and post it to DTube.
  • Tag your friends in this post to encourage them to get on board!
  • Write your own posts about the idea and gather more ideas and attention!

PLEASE DON'T BUY VOTES FOR THIS PROJECT!

I know, we could do it that way, but let's not give the big fish any more of the reward pool than necessary, okay? They can upvote their own fortunes.

Some of you will want to watch and see what happens. That's great! Could you do me one favor? Please, please, please, don't do anything negative. Encourage each other. If you don't want to participate, at least don't stand in our way, please? Thanks! That includes negative comments, pointing out problems, being unhelpful, or otherwise distracting. Just go do your own thing, we promise not to rain on your parade!

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Maybe I am wrong. This seems to me that the dolphin school name will rise up in reputation and rewards level a lot faster then any of the others involved. You will end in control of 2 accounts with a high reputation level. which will be higher then the minnow plankton that upvoted it.

This is not a negative comment, But an observation.
I think you should ask for others to post in the Dolphin school, and then promote the bollox from an unknown users post. This removes any issues conflicting interest.

I can see this been viewed as a negative comment, but when the train starts rolling I will be supportive of the school and cast my vote in support.

It's a free platform, brother. Join, or don't join. I'm here to make money and teach other people how to do it too. If that's not your thing, you're welcome to start your own project. And yeah, I'm keeping half the profit,plus the SP for dolphinschool, but I challenge you to go and see the time I spent, sharing my ten years of pro blogging experience with the 20 people I charged $0 to go through #dolphinschool bootcamp and then come back and tell me you think I'm not giving enough. I am up front about it. I'm here to make money and teach others how to do the same, not interested in some communist share and share alike project. But, feel free to get involved with one of the several that already exist, adsactly is one.

A definite no for me after reading this response.

What makes you think that downvoting my comment will do any good? I am surprised to see such a behavior from you. The respect I had for you is gone. I followed you based on one post. I guess it was a wrong decision so I have undone it by unfollowing you. Please do not expose more of yourself.

Well, since you are going to upvote your own comment, I don't suppose it will do any good. I did it to hide it from the feed, because it's not useful. I'm sorry you were offended by my behavior,but perhaps basing, first, your positive impression of me on ONE post out of 5000, then your negative impression of me on ONE comment, might not be the best way for you to see what I'm about. I'm here to help as many people, including myself, which I made no secret of, as I can. I'm sorry if I've offended you. I've donated hundreds of hours coaching beginners. I've even damaged my own blog in the process by losing steady voters due to resteeming beginner's content to encourage them. I'm not sure what you think you know, but you might want to scratch a little deeper,before you judge me so quickly. Thanks for your comments, here's hoping you much success. Steem on.

I apologize for taking offense. I upvoted my comment for visibility. It was not a post through which I came to know about you. It was a @dolphinschool comment on one of my blog posts. This one was the comment perhaps. Or may be an earlier one because I remember an exchange of comments between us.

I appreciate your work and it is something that I have been doing as well.

Steem on!

Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

I do see your point, and I don’t consider it to be a negative comment. The way I see it, your observation is correct.

Still, I believe this project will be something we can all learn a lot from, and when it is successful, we can pay forward the knowledge, conducting experiments like this and showing our followers how to do it - which will then grow our account.

@markrmorrisjr: reading your reply to this comment, it felt like you reacted in a very defensive way. (I could be wrong, of course.) I don’t think you should feel personally attacked, since @brayias was only sharing his observation, and was not judging. Instead, he was offering his support.

Well, thanks for your input Mike, you're obviously throwing your weight behind this, but please remember, this was my post and the comment you're responding to was addressed to me. I'll extend the same courtesy to you on your posts.

I’m sorry about that. Won’t happen again

All good man, not even saying you're not right, but seriously, if I have to constantly worry about feelings, when I didn't cuss someone out, this is gonna be a long and arduous journey. LOL I'm old and cranky.

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Yes it is a free platform. and you are right I am free to support or not support.Unlike the post below, I do not judge you from one comment. Though I see you do not do much in the way of supporting others. You do not share your upvote with the community but upvote your own accounts and at the same time criticise others for upvoting their own comments.

The upvotes you get to promote you in your new DolphinSchool. The power of those votes just go to promote your own works, You promote very little of others if at all. You show no interest in the benefit to anyone else. Just how you can benefit from others.

Based on this view I have come to form of your ambition, which may be inaccurate. That you hold no interest in the success of others, but more of what you can gain from others. When your point of view is questioned you auto respond with a dismissive manner. Maybe your tactics on diplomacy are not as good as your ability to write fiction.

Your are not about community, or helping others. You abuse the helping others title to further your own ambitions of gaining from this platform. That's this newbie opinion of which I am told I am entitled to.
This will be my last post to you and this post the last upvote you will receive from me. this may be no loss to you, but the potential loss is greater then just the loss of my vote.

Since my reply to this comment has been seen in a negative light, I'd like to address it. I was not trying to discourage anyone from being a part of anything. This is a big platform and there is room for plenty of initiatives. First, I don't understand what you think would happen by me having more than one "high value" account (although I wonder, are you basing this on my rep score, or my wallet?) I'm a minnow. Just like many of you. I had over 16k SP last summer, but had to cash out due to family obligations, and some travel that we thought was paid for another way. Long story short, I'm still just shy of 1000 SP, my vote is worth 22 cents on a good day. But, I think you'd find my account has been used to encourage and support others from the very beginning, hundreds of hours, even to my own detriment. I've never tried to profit off of it, other than accepting rewards for the posts made in service to those ideals, which, by the way, are some of the lowest paid posts I've created, turns out, minnows don't have big votes and dolphins and whales are not interested in supporting training. They'd rather you buy votes from them. But, the @dolphinschool profile was created in response to the fact that my own blog was overwhelmed by the dolphinschool bootcamp. I funded the profile, what little it has, through my account and a couple of dormant accounts belonging to my wife and son. I asked no one for delegation or support. I bought what few votes I have purchased, to try and get the dolphinschool bootcamp posts to make more, so that the profit sharing from them would be larger for the students, several of whom made more in payouts than I, on their homework assignments. For ten days I got about $50 SBD. 1/3 of which I shared with students.

So, when you say, it seems I would be making the lion's share, okay. But, I'm also funding the entire process. It's my name on the line. I'm the one coming up with the idea. People were openly invited to voluntarily contribute whatever they wanted to. I've not twisted any arms or asked for a single cent. In return, I've been questioned at least three times as to what my intentions are. So, I responded. The reason I am not interested in a communal arrangement is simple. I've been in the arts for 25 years. It has been my experience that groups run by committee tend to fail, while those with a strong leader, are typically longer lived and able to do more good. This was my vision from the beginning. I'm asking anyone who wants to, to tag along. I'm not apologizing for taking a cut, because I know what I've done with resources in the past and what I'll continue to do in the future. To add an obvious point, in all of this discussion here, mine is the highest reputation score among us. What does that mean? It means that, I've accumulated more votes on this platform than any of the rest of the voices in this conversation. I've put in two years of hard work, shared more than five million words, and I intend to earn my living here. As the price increases, which it will again in the near future, the pool will as well (in cash value) leaving plenty of room for anyone that wants to work as hard as I have to succeed. I'm willing to share everything I know and some of what I earn, but not all. I'm sorry if this seems greedy, or disingenuous. I started this is an outlet for my own ideas on steemit and experiments I conducted and to date, it remains such. In the process, I intend to promote as many others, without cost or obligation, as I can. I hope this is a better response than what I previously gave.

I like this reply more than the previous one - lol

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Hi, here is the link to the post we are trying to raise, it's hit #5 in "hot" so far, would love to have your vote https://steemit.com/community/@dolphinschool/help-us-encourage-more-human-curation-by-sending-this-post-to-the-top-of-trending-read-to-find-out-more

As I stated in one of my last post: the only way to fail is by not trying.
I’ve read the entire @dolphinschool series and I think that if anyone has a chance to pull this off, it’s you @markmorrisjr

You can count me in.
I’ll be spreading the word about this, starting by writing a post tomorrow.

I hereby summon my friends of the #newbieresteemday initiative to help out.
@davemccoy @mudcat36 @beeyou @amariespeaks @fibrefox @markennard @royaleagle @cryptkeeper17 @bashadow @themanwithnoname and all other members: together we can move mountains, remember?!
Let’s do this!

Ahh, we meet again @markmorrisjr.

Thanks for the tag @simplymike. I was just having a discussion with @markmorrisjr on his @dolphinschool account on why we shouldn't suggest to 'our' newbies to use the introduceyourself tag often, especially for a tutorial post that is not relevant to 'introducing' themselves. I saw one of our newbies in the newbieresteemday initiative received a notification from using the tag from a 'steemit police', for lack of a better word.

He made a good point of me being a 'newbie' myself and to 'Come back in a year and say that again'. :) All in good fun.

Yes I am a newbie. No I am not familar with @dolphinschool. I didn't even get a chance to read the whole post, to be honest. I read this excerpt, and only commented because I thought @dolphinschool was a newbie him/herself and didn't want the person to get tagged or unknowingly not know and sharing with others. He did thank me for the input.

Step two, add it to your blog! Put it in the howto category, add tutorial, steemiteducation, introduceyourself and dolphinschool for best results.

Hey @beeyou

The idea is well worth checking out.

If I may suggest, take a look at the posts @markrmorrisjr made for his Dolphin Bootcamp (you can read them here - they’re in random order, but you can see which is day 1, day 2 etc by looking at the URLs). From those articles, I guess he knows his way around and might be able to pull this off...

Hey @simplymike. I barely have time to catch up with my replies. LOL. But I will let @davemccoy know.

How are you feeling @simplymike! It's a good sign to see you here ;)

And congrats on winning a @steembasicincome membership from @newbiegames ... I was happy to see you get a present while you were gone ;)

Oh, you're out already @simplymike? I know it was this week but didn't know how long the stay. I hope you are doing well!

I was super happy to see @amariespeaks select your name for the steembasicincome membership.

@davemccoy, did you know @simplymike sponsored me for a steembasicincome share? Just like you sponsored me for my qurator membership. Our team rocks!

I didn't know that but that's cool! Yes we have a very cool group and what is even better is that we are all networking and working as a big team ;)

Thanks. I’m out, but will have to spend the next month lying down or walking, so my PC is off limits. :0(

Since I’m not able to load the mentions tool on Steemistry on my phone, I didn’t know yet about winning another share in @amariespeaks’ contest. Thanks for the heads up :0)

Thanks, I’m doing ok. Still in quite some pain, but SteemIt takes my mind off things.

Tomorrow, I’m going to switch from my mobile phone to my iPad, to make being active on SteemIt a little easier while lying down -lol

Rest as much as possible @simplymike. The only surgery I've had was my wisdom teeth removed, and I was a baby afterwards! The bigger ipad screen will definitely help.

We have more exciting news for our group! I haven't had a chance to write the weekly recap, but if you go on my blog (when you feel up to it) and read my thanks to the stewards post, you'll find out our initiative may be joining another empire!

p.s., no need to read my long post. Just top part and comment section. I didn't think it appropriate to link my post on someone else's post.

Rest and feel better soon!

You’ve got me curious..
I’ll check it out :0)

I'm happy to hear you are doing ok! Keep resting and we'll hold the fort down for you!

Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

I just gave it to you, good job @markrmorrisjr! :)

Thanks. well, we hit hot, we shall see if it can get anymore traction or not. Thanks for your support.

I’m also reaching out to my fellow members of the @steemthat community.
How about giving this a shot @binkley, @daan, @webresultat, @gardengirlcanada, @anupbose and all the others?

thanks my respected member

My votes not worth much at all but you have it, @markrmorrisjr! Sounds like you know what youre doing and Im happy to help! :D

Well, mine isn't worth a lot at the moment, either. I had to cash out this summer to pay for my daughter's wedding, among other things.

What a wonderful thing to be able to do! :)

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Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

You got it! :)

thanks for the tag @simplymike !! I love this idea - I had yet to see @markmorrisjr or @dolphinschool so I'm excited to learn more! I am a bit weary of the trending section as well - it can get discouraging to see so many poorly executed posts raking in the steem and then click back to my blog and see my dead posts floating at 0.46 after I spent hours working on them. If this is a way to start turning the tables then I'm totally in! Doing some more research now :)

You should look at the #dolphinschool tag and in particular #dolphinschool bootcamp. I've only just begun at @dolphinschool, when the last project overwhelmed my blog and crowded out my own content. Let me know if you have any questions. The way to get above .46 by the way, is to build in community engagement. I'm looking to get to the point where my minimum average is around $10 a post, in the next few months.

Thank you for the advice, I'm working on building up my networking on here. I'll check out that bootcamp tag. And good luck - I hope you reach your $10 minimum goal :)

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thanks! checking it out now :)

Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

Whew! That was a lot of reading ... from your post right through all the comments ... @markrmorrisjr I would like to be part of it as I think you are onto something. I like to help people and definitely also need to get ahead myself. Also, if @losthippie, @davemccoy, @bashadow, @manwithnoname and the others at newbieresteemday think it's a good idea, who am I to argue. Let's go for it!
@deliberator, what do you think?

Well, it's only one post on one day, seems like a pretty small thing to "risk" LOL. I write posts every day that end up anonymous, so maybe this one will do something we can learn from and repeat in accounts all across the lower end of this platform.

I'm still finding my way around here, and also have such a small amount of time as I have to do real life too much. So whatever it is I need to do, I'll do!

Great, well, I'm extending the project a week to get more people on board and promote it better. So, if you watch my blog as you have time, or @dolphinschool, I'll be sharing more details.

Plankton and minnows do need support just because we dont have alot of money were the people who are spreading the word and getting more people coming here by word of mouth ect I would like to see more support or let some whales use there bots to upvote quality posts at random like they used to but goodluck with that anyway goodluck with the project, cheers.

Many of the whales still do, there's just a lot of us. It really feels like it's the midlevel accounts, the dolphins, large minnows and small whales that are all plugged into the bid bots and taking profits.

I'm in! This sounds like a great project and I appreciate you organizing it. I am still a minnow (if that!) but love Steemit and want to do things honestly here (no buying votes, etc.) and would love to help out!

Great! Glad to hear it!

I'm in :)
I've been in trending when I've been curated, you've been trending when you were curated, but it'd be nice to see if many small votes can alternatively make trending.
In the end of the day, most participants are contributing proof of brain, not investment.

We shall see. Yeah, I've hit it a few times recently, but it's not sticking like it used to. It hardly ever gets more votes, because all the curation trails follow the bid bots, follow the curation trails, follow the bid bots, here we go round the mulberry bush...

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Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

RESTEEMED!

Thanks! Welcome to the minnow votes project! buckle up, this is going to be fun!

I'm sure it will be!

Minnow Votes Project team, check out this link for today's promotional challenge. If you have other ideas, let me know. Thanks.

Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #4 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

Let's do this! I'm sure we can make it!

Hey, I like that attitude! At the very least, we'll make new friends and get ourselves a little promotion in the process.

Minnow Votes Project team, check out this link for today's promotional challenge. If you have other ideas, let me know. Thanks.

Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

Resteemed.
I'm in.

Cool! Thanks for the resteem, welcome to project Minnow votes, let's see what we can do!

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Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

It will be interesting to see if we see an 'organic' post make it's way to the top of the trending. @ironshield

Well, they can, and do. But, most of the time it's because a whale puts them there. We'll see if we can get enough of us to push at once to make it happen.

Minnow Votes Project team, check out this link for today's promotional challenge. If you have other ideas, let me know. Thanks.

Here is the link to the post we are trying to raise to trending. It's hit #5 on "hot" so far. Would love to have your vote. Thanks!

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