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https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580069-6.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-01448R000401570010-1.pdf
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580062-3.pdf
To many of you readers this information will not be new but I thought it would be a good idea to compile the evidence together in this post. For those of you not familiar with former president and CIA director George H. W. Bush, you may find this post interesting, to say the least.
Earlier this year, president Trump postponed the release of the long awaited JFK assassination files that were set to become declassified. The day before the documents were set to be disclosed the president decided to keep the files classified until 2021 claiming, once again, to protect national security.
Trump's official White House memorandum on April 26th, 2018:
I agree with the Archivist’s recommendation that the continued withholdings are necessary to protect against identifiable harm to national security, law enforcement, or foreign affairs that is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest in immediate disclosure. I am also ordering agencies to re-review each of those redactions over the next 3 years. At any time during that review period, and no later than the end of that period, agencies shall disclose information that no longer warrants continued withholding.
-President Donald J. Trump
Whitehouse.gov
...to protect against identifiable harm to national security, law enforcement, or foreign affairs...
In October 2017, Trump indicated that he would release the JFK files in full which created a buzz of anticipation as the release date approached.
It was former US president George H. W. Bush who, in 1992, signed a law that would allow the full disclosure of the complete JFK assassination records after 25 years.
Among the 30,000 pages already made public an additional 3,100 files were set to be released posthaste. Of the 30,000 pages already made public many of them are redacted. These files were also set to be fully unredacted when the full records were to be disclosed as of the 25 year deadline.
However with Trump extending the deadline to 2021 for national security reasons and with the release of the majority of the JFK files, there are 520 documents that remain withheld from the public and an additional 15,834 documents still redacted in some form or another.
It begs the question -
What are these files hiding after 55 years?
What could be so damaging to national security that they must be withheld for another 3 years?
Many have speculated for decades that the JFK files implicate US law enforcement and the CIA to such an extent that it would severely damage, and likely destroy, the public perception of these agencies and individuals named in the documents potentially tying them to the conspiracy to assassinate a sitting US president.
Since the postponement of the JFK files, it has also been suggested that former US president George H. W. Bush is among those whose name appears in the redacted and unreleased documents.
George Herbert Walker Bush
Before serving as the 41st president of the United States of America, George H.W. Bush (GHWB)was also the director of the C.I.A. from 1976-1977. George H. W. Bush is also a known member of the secret Skull and Bones Society at Yale University.
Bush claims that he was not interested in joining the ranks at the CIA and was not thrilled about his appointment to the agency saying that it was a "real shocker".
Was George H.W. Bush in Dallas Texas on November 22nd 1963?
In Kitty Kelley's biography of the Bush family she writes that George H. W. Bush stated that he 'can't remember' where he was the day Kennedy was shot and murdered in Dallas.
If true, this is an unbelievable statement as everybody, or at least every American, knows where they were when they heard the news of JFK's assassination. This is not something that people forget.
In this day and age people know exactly where they were and what they were doing on 9/11. People remember where they were the day that John Lennon was shot or when Tupac Shakur was gunned down in Las Vegas. The JFK assassination cuts deep into the American psyche so it is hard to imagine that a politician, a future president no less, would have no recollection of his whereabouts on this fateful day. Even non-Americans living outside the US know where they were when they heard Kennedy had been shot and killed in 1963.
The FBI Memo
In 1988, an FBI memo surfaced that placed George Bush in Dallas Texas on November 23rd, 1963.
The document reads:
The substance of the foregoing information was orally furnished to Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency and Captain William Edwards of the Defense Intelligence Agency.
The FBI memo clearly shows a one George Bush as a CIA operative or asset.
Breaking with standard CIA protocol of "we neither confirm nor deny", the CIA refutes the fact that the George Bush in the memo is George H. W. Bush claiming there was another George W. Bush working for the CIA in Dallas at the time. The agency insists that George H.W. had no prior relationship with the CIA until he became director in 1976.
A report that the vice president George Bush worked for the Central Intelligence Agency in the 1960s as an operative appears to be a case of mistaken identity.
The agency has identified a George William Bush who worked at the CIA headquarters during that period and is apparently the man recently discovered in a FBI memorandum, said CIA representative Sharron Basso.
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-01448R000401580062-3.pdf
According to the New York Times, the former US president denied the memo through his spokesman.
The Memo was first reported on in the Nation Magazine by Joseph McBride
The magazine article, written by Joseph McBride, also quoted an unidentified source ''with close connections to the intelligence community'' as saying Mr. Bush ''started working for the agency in 1960 or 1961, using his oil business as a cover for clandestine activities.''
New York Times
Both Bush and the CIA deny that he was an operative in the early 1960s and the CIA claims that there was a second George Bush working for them at the time.
Former Washington Post reporter and editor of jfkfacts.org, Jefferson Morley, doesn't believes that there's any evidence linking Bush to Dealey plaza or an assassination conspiracy.
Entertaining the idea that Bush could have been a CIA operative at the time Morley dismisses the evidence as unsubstantiated.
But the allegation is so weak and defamatory as to qualify as libelous in an ethical, if not a legal, sense.
jfkfacts.org
He argues that Kitty Kelley is not a reliable source and that George H. W. Bush did indeed remember where he was on November 22, 1963.
Bush’s whereabouts on Nov. 22 are known. He was staying in Dallas and flew to Tyler, Texas, for an appearance in his campaign for U.S. Senate. How exactly does that indicate conspiratorial involvement? It doesn’t.
The Dallas Photograph
Quora.com
Much has been made of the above photograph taken outside of the Dallas book depository on November 22, 1963. The man in the photo does resemble GHWB, having a similar hairstyle and body posture. Critics maintain that though the photograph does bear some resemblance to GHWB it hardly qualifies as proof since there's no corroberating evidence.
A Second FBI Memorandum
Another government memorandum surfaced in that references George H. W. Bush of the Zapata Offshore Drilling Company dated November 22, 1963.
http://aarclibrary.org/notices/Affidavit_of_George_William_Bush_880921.pdf
In this memo, George H . W. Bush is confirmed to have been in Tyler, Texas a small town about 100 miles east of Dallas on the day of the assassination. Curiously, Bush relays information about a possible assassination attempt on Kennedy in Dallas. Although the tip pointed to a University of Texas student as a possible suspect the tip has little to no value to the investigation at all.
So why is this tip preserved?
Some suggest that it establishes a detailed alibi for Bush showing on the official record that he was not in Dallas on the day of the assassination.
George William Bush
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Determined to prove that GHWB was the same CIA operative named in the FBI memo, Joseph McBride attempted to track down George William Bush. Incredibly, there was indeed another George Bush working at the CIA at the time and not only did McBride track him down, but eventually George William Bush signed the following affidavit in September 1988.
In reference to the FBI memorandum that names Mr. George Bush the document states:
I do not recognize the contents of the memorandum as information furnished to me orally or otherwise during the time I was at the CIA. In fact, during my time at the CIA I did not receive any oral communications from any government agency of any nature whatsoever. I did not receive any information relating to the Kennedy assassination during my time at the CIA from the FBI.
http://aarclibrary.org/notices/Affidavit_of_George_William_Bush_880921.pdf
The affidavit makes it abundantly clear that George William Bush is not the CIA operative mentioned in the FBI memorandum.
Closure
Those that have waited decades to know the truth behind the JFK murders will have to wait until at least 2021. Honestly, it's highly likely that it will be postponed and the American public will once again be shielded from the contents of the archive.
George H. W. Bush is still alive but after the passing of Barbara Bush he may not live to see 2021 and the 'release' of the JFK files in their entirety. Personally, I suspect this is one of the reasons why the disclosure has not yet come to pass and they're simply waiting for anyone who's still alive and named in the files to pass away before disclosure can happen.
It's rather insulting to the American people to protect them from the truth contained in the JFK files. I'm sure whatever is in the archives the public can handle it.
I appreciate this particular post quite a bit, having been long persuaded by cryptic evidence that Bush Sr. was involved in the CIA even during his matriculation, and certainly was the principle logistician of the anti-Castro efforts of the CIA during Zapata Oil's explorations for oil off the Cuban coast. The Barbara II, Zapata's ship parked offshore, was far too convenient to be not utilized to resupply and move personnel in Cuba at the time.
Given his personal involvement and financial dependence on such matters, I suspect he himself was not just there, but fired the killing shot. I have seen (but no longer possess, sadly) a memo from J. Edgar Hoover regarding 41's visit to him in his offices (purported to be somewhat of a life insurance policy) and discussion of the consequences of the assassination and it's relation to Cubans. Some have said 41 threatened Hoover should the FBI not play ball with the CIA.
It also specified that it was 'George Bush, of the CIA', and given George W. Bush's denial of being involved in the assassination investigation (or execution) by the CIA, or being orally briefed by the FBI, I am pretty sure it was 41 threatening to shoot Hoover with a bullet of ice should he not play along.
Bush was quite obviously capable of shooting both men, and his running of the Iran/Contra operation, invasion of Panama, and the betrayal of Saddam Hussein show he was utterly without scruple, and indeed, prone to savagery beyond even that revealed by the history of the Avars, notorious for sewing cats into the bellies of pregnant women.
Thanks!
I HIGHLY recommend anyone interested in this subject to watch the following documentary. While it does contain a couple of claims that I find unlikely - it also contains a mass of evidence and explanation that covers a lot of ground and some evidence I haven't seen anywhere else.
From 911 to JFK: Everything is a rich man's trick
@ura-soul, I have learnt couple of new things from the video. I have to look for a way to download this. The rich had to take JFK off the list because he was bad for business, too much enemies. Now I see why Trump postponed the release of those documents. Too many Agencies and Big names will go down.
You can use this site to download from youtube and facebook: http://www.downvids.net/
Nice, thanks for making it much easier for me.
Wow, i just finished watching it. There is plenty of interesting documentaries i have seen on 9/11 but this documentaries offers insight into another big incident - jfk assassination - that i did not know was also so controversial. Thanks for sharing. Sometimes i wonder how unaware an average person like me is about the inner workings of powerful govt organizations such as the CIA and how they liaise with govt and other political interests.
This documentary is actualy now blocked for me on Youtube on the original uploader's account! Someone got annoyed by it! ;)
He is crowd funding volume 2 of it right now.
Haha, surprised it hasn't been blocked fir everyone. block any information that says other than what they want you to hear. Will be interested in part 2 as well. How is it only blocked for you?
The message says it is blocked in the region I am in (Britain) - but doesn't say why. Other people have uploaded it anyway, so it's a waste of time.
Aah. Got it.
Thanks for adding this here, it's a great doc and I agree there's some hard to come by evidence that's worth seeing. Personally, I think JFK had a lot of enemies and this film shows a scenario that is probably closer to the truth than any other doc. From the group assembled around LBJ to the multiple shooters set up around Dealey plaza and the likely location of the kill shot these things make this film a must see, imo.
Thanks @ura-soul - I was thinking of this doc while writing this peice.
You are welcome! I am still amazed how many 'researchers' appear to have not seen it.. Maybe they are just intending to distract away from the real details.. hmm.
Excellent work as always @v4vapid .. something tells me that when 2021 rolls around we still won't be seeing the bigger picture! Absolutely ridiculous for Bush to state that he "can't remember" where he was on the day JFK was murdered .. I must have been about six years old when John Lennon was shot and I can still very clearly recall it. I'm not sure if you've seen the attached documentary but it is a series of six that revisit and reconstruct important (conspiratorial) events in history using, original news reports, telephone converstations, interviews etc etc .. aspects that have been swept under the rug and long forgotten. The first one is about the JFK assassination and if you haven't seen it then it's very much worth your time and is an absolute must watch. The above link contains all six parts (first one JFK) including the MK Ultra mind control programme and RFK, they are essential viewing!
Another thorough deep dive to add to the collection.
I think you are right about these documents continually being withheld until the relevant parties are diseased. And as much as I'd like to learn about the contents, as it's been this long anyway, it might be the thing to do.
Yeah don't hold your breath!
At this point anyone trying defend the official story with the magic bullet and a single 'commie' named Oswald is just lying to themselves about JFK's assassination. There was a conspiracy to kill him but the state, or deep state, has to keep perpetuating the lie for self preservation.
Thanks for reading and commenting abh1234, I appreciate it ;)
No chance of that happening :)
I was probably only 10/11 when I watched a story about the JFK assassination, and the one thing I remember thinking was that Oswald was a scapegoat.
Couldn't even pull the wool over my eyes at that age!
That's just it, even children can see that Oswald was a patsy!
The agency has to continue this bs into eternity, it's absurd when you think about it. It's like the emperor has no clothes and we have to keep going along with these ridiculous lies.
It is a symptom of the 3 monkey control mechanism. Blind, Deaf and Dumb.
You make a strong case, that's for sure!
Excellent text, @v4vapid. Deep dives on Deep State shows clearly that there are no conspiracy theories involved around alienated state — there is only a conspiracy practise… :(
I don't even think they will release these documents after George Bush passes. It will only happen if and when the empire falls.
The CIA killed JFK, that is what the world knows @v4vapid
The more i learn about how corrupt the governments of the world are, the more i beleive in the future of crypto. It also makes me never want to move back to the West. We are privileged in some ways but our countries suffer from the same dirty deceit that plagues the countries we are supposedly trying to ‘help’
If the CIA claimed that wasn't George H W Bush on the Dallas photograph then there is a whole lots of conspiracy because why is the person on same hairstyle. And guess Trump decided to postpone the release date because if Bush was responsible in the whole plot, he might get assassinated also. Who knows that will be final proof for one of Kennedy family member to swing into action or probably cause a protest which will call for Bush arrest. So the darkside of releasing it when H W Bush is still alive and will definitely toil the reputation of the CIA.
I don’t expect much about this coming out unredacted until I myself am in my 70’s, they want to push this off as long as possible.