I think it's hard to calculate, perhaps you don't have kids in school but paying so that other people's kids are in school prevents those kids from robbing you or committing property crimes for 6 hours a day, that could save you a fortune. Maybe you don't use the library but it gives homeless people a place to go instead of standing in front of your place of business scaring away the customers or near your home lowering your property values hanging out near your home. Consider the value of having your employees be able to use public transportation, or the employees of restaurants or hotels you go to, they can pay them less than people who own cars which saves you money.
I think it's hard to calculate, perhaps you don't have kids in school but paying so that other people's kids are in school prevents those kids from robbing you or committing property crimes for 6 hours a day
I pay for schools on 8 pieces of property. Public schools are of such poor quality, that I had to pay for both of my kids to go to private school. Recently three armed juveniles tried to burglarize a house, and threatened the owner. They were shot, while the Police protection we pay for was not yet there. My dogs would shred them, If I didn't get them first.
Maybe you don't use the library but it gives homeless people a place to go instead of standing in front of your place of business scaring away the customers or near your home lowering your property values hanging out near your home.
The library here will not allow access. If they go to the Parks, they are arrested! We are fighting that right now in court, because we help the Homeless, directly!
This is a hot meal we feed them every month to about 325.
Consider the value of having your employees be able to use public transportation, or the employees of restaurants or hotels you go to, they can pay them less than people who own cars which saves you money.
For every dollar we spend on Public transportation we get back $0.50 to $0.10 in actual value. All public transportation does, is make it impossible for private concerns to set up a paying bus route. So instead I have to pay for empty buses that go to places no one wants to ride to. Restaurant employees can NOT use public transportation, because when they finish work it is no longer running. The reason hotels are so expensive, is NOT the wages of the workers, it is the added taxes on each room! When I worked a front desk, the city got $20 of every room I rented. It is significantly Higher now! Dump those taxes, and pay these starving workers more!!!
Government does NOT solve anything; they are overhead, and produce nothing! It is the largest collection of incompetents on the planet. The more government programs we can eliminate, and move to the private sector, the stronger this Republic will become.
We are trying to set up a non profit for the homeless work. IF I Stop feeding them for six months, I can afford the paper work costs...THAT IS JUST SICK!
It would help me to understand how taxes are theft. Those who say taxes are theft seem to be ignoring all the things they receive in return, thieves don't come and put your house out if it catches on fire or eradicate invasive beetles eating your trees, right?
Nope, people write them the checks or opt to have it withheld from their pay. People don't write thieves checks. It sort of matters, thieves don't give you anything in return for what they steal. It's just a bad analogy, a better one would be to say that taxes are extortion. It's just not "theft" under any definition of the word. The government is a protection racket, not a theft ring.
I think it is very different, for one thing, if you are being extorted your extortionist has an interest in preventing others from extorting you, thieves have no such interest.
in that case what do you call the public services you receive?
overpriced and sub-standard actually.
sure, but if paying for them is "theft" what is receiving them?
Dependency!receiving that which you have paid for is dependency?
Receiving barely enough "back" to stay alive is dependency!
>:(I think it's hard to calculate, perhaps you don't have kids in school but paying so that other people's kids are in school prevents those kids from robbing you or committing property crimes for 6 hours a day, that could save you a fortune. Maybe you don't use the library but it gives homeless people a place to go instead of standing in front of your place of business scaring away the customers or near your home lowering your property values hanging out near your home. Consider the value of having your employees be able to use public transportation, or the employees of restaurants or hotels you go to, they can pay them less than people who own cars which saves you money.
I pay for schools on 8 pieces of property. Public schools are of such poor quality, that I had to pay for both of my kids to go to private school. Recently three armed juveniles tried to burglarize a house, and threatened the owner. They were shot, while the Police protection we pay for was not yet there. My dogs would shred them, If I didn't get them first.
The library here will not allow access. If they go to the Parks, they are arrested! We are fighting that right now in court, because we help the Homeless, directly!
This is a hot meal we feed them every month to about 325.
For every dollar we spend on Public transportation we get back $0.50 to $0.10 in actual value. All public transportation does, is make it impossible for private concerns to set up a paying bus route. So instead I have to pay for empty buses that go to places no one wants to ride to. Restaurant employees can NOT use public transportation, because when they finish work it is no longer running. The reason hotels are so expensive, is NOT the wages of the workers, it is the added taxes on each room! When I worked a front desk, the city got $20 of every room I rented. It is significantly Higher now! Dump those taxes, and pay these starving workers more!!!
Government does NOT solve anything; they are overhead, and produce nothing! It is the largest collection of incompetents on the planet. The more government programs we can eliminate, and move to the private sector, the stronger this Republic will become.
We are trying to set up a non profit for the homeless work. IF I Stop feeding them for six months, I can afford the paper work costs...THAT IS JUST SICK!
what does it matter what I call them?
It would help me to understand how taxes are theft. Those who say taxes are theft seem to be ignoring all the things they receive in return, thieves don't come and put your house out if it catches on fire or eradicate invasive beetles eating your trees, right?
doesn't matter what they DO with the money.
that's totally irrelevant.
all that matters is how they get it.
they steal it.
Nope, people write them the checks or opt to have it withheld from their pay. People don't write thieves checks. It sort of matters, thieves don't give you anything in return for what they steal. It's just a bad analogy, a better one would be to say that taxes are extortion. It's just not "theft" under any definition of the word. The government is a protection racket, not a theft ring.
extortion is a form of theft.
a protection racket is too.
I think it is very different, for one thing, if you are being extorted your extortionist has an interest in preventing others from extorting you, thieves have no such interest.
it's a different form of theft....
a form of slavery perhaps?
but it's still theft.