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RE: Reviewing Basic Voluntaryist Ideas for Beginners

in #dlive6 years ago

But... but...we need rulers, protected by double standards and not equal under the law, to keep the peace! har har

We should all be equal under the law?! Why, that's MADNESS!!! Who would ever think of such a crazy idea? You're clearly out of your mind, sir.

Those people need to be above the law, or else our liberties would all be lost.

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They are not under a complete double standard. Laws do apply to them so your point is not valid. Yes they do get away with some corruption which obviously needs to change but so do some citizens.

LOL Give me a break. Agents of the state are protected by massive double standards and special protections. I'm not even going to bother giving you examples. If you're that blind, you're hopeless. Hell, in the county North of me, the DA, all the cops, and the judges put an innocent man in prison for a murder he did not commit. They all knew he was innocent too. No double standards? Pfft.

If I shoot someone, do I get a free attorney? Is the county attorney on my side? Is the judge going to be on my side? Do I get a slap on the wrist? No, no, no... no... .no....

If you think police are the main problem in America than I guess I can understand where you are coming from. I would disagree with your assessment.
Does abuse exist? Yes. Our government is too big which causes a lot of abuse. I'd be pretty scared to go cold turkey anarchist though when you have ignorant sheeple that actually want more government or at least stay home on election day even when more taxation is on the ballot.

More taxation is always on the ballot, and the system is intrinsically murderous. To suggest that those that don’t participate in a murder system’s protocol are somehow a detriment to civilized society is patently absurd.

I think it's absurd to only pledge to only participate in voluntaryism which will likely never happen. Our current system could eventually collapse under the weight of too much socialism but I doubt the anarchy it brings will be very pretty especially while it lasts.
War is a racket but in the USA about 99% of murders are not done by the government. Voluntaryists could probably do more to stop those now but it's pretty much only the government doing anything.

"The anarchy it brings" tells me our definitions of the word are no where near the same. Anarchy is all around us. It is the norm. Go to any crowded place. In that place the vast majority of people will be peaceful and interacting voluntarily. Laws don't make them do those things. They do them because it is the natural way humans interact. The rare exception? They get heavily punished for being a predator. No government is needed to have those things happen either.

I think things like murder and rape would happen a lot more if we had real anarchy. You're right that no government is needed to build roads or arrest murderers but in general there are a few things where government does do a somewhat decent job at. Sure anarchists might want to hire their own trash collector and policeman and pay tolls etc but most people would not.

"Real anarchy?" Ugh. No, it wouldn't happen more. Those people wouldn't live long since the majority of people wouldn't put up with it.

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