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RE: Who, Why & How to Join the @Flagtrail By @Steemflagrewards to Help Clean Steem Ecosystem from Abuse & Spam |Join the Course, for the Greater Good...
Censorship on STEEM?
Sorry, I'l pass on this one. Twitter doesn't have a 'flag trail', why would we want a decentralised social network to have one? Especially if the Algo makes sure the cream rises to the top anyway.
I'de rather leave the policing up to the code and natural community flag actions, as opposed to active censorship by a group or entity. JMHO
Flagging doesn't delete a post/comment from the blockchain, on most UIs it doesn't even hide it. So it's not censorship.
What it is, though, is (if flags/downvotes > upvotes) demonitization of content that was excessively upvoted. Imagine some whale posting 12 random images from the internet, and upvoting each of them for 10$+. Why would we want someone to earn a 100$ a day for spamming the blockchain? Wouldn't we rather those coins going towards people who put their heart and soul into their content, i.e @elsiekjay?
To reiterate a few things: the way the reward pool works is, X coins are added each day, and depending how many upvotes/downvotes were given, Y STEEM is subtracted from it, and given to users as per their posts pending payout, the more downvotes spammers get, the more $ the rest of the community earns. I'll repeat this again, the spam is still on the blockchain, and anyone who wants to see it... can see it... But the abuser will not earn STEEM from it.
So, yeah. Censorship sucks. Luckily the flagtrail doesn't encourage it.
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All of what you wrote is true and I am well aware of; my point is we should look to fix it via code and not direct human intervention.
That statement applies for anyone that may go rouge as well, which is why I would rather code over any entity.
That's just my opinion from experience, hard to change but I'll agree to disagree based on...
Oh? And what type of code can prevent that?
Until someone could give me some insight, I am not buying into the code version of "cold fusion".
@enforcer48 ask Google, Yahoo, Bing, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Wordpress,,,,,, and thousands of devs familiar with anti-spam ware. I'm sure there's open source code available as well 😉
Cheers
Right...because they have actually eliminated the issue. Lol
You asked what code; I gave you an answer.
So, you believe this will "eliminate" the issue? lol
I doubt it, but another band-aid will help for sure. If you haven't read the other comments, I've been swayed by @reazuliqbal (changed persception) and think the #flagtrail may actually help.
@enforcer48 Have a day 😁
It won’t.
But, that’s not my problem.
This is what FlagTrail is. First a Steem user flags a post and tags @steemflagrewards. A moderator verifies if it was a genuine flag (not an opinion flag).
After approval, a moderator can use FlagTrail on that content. If any trail participant doesn't like the content they flagged, may remove the flag, or may leave the trail if they wish so. It is a community action but in a well organized and very efficient way.
Wait, wait... now that you put it that way— I kinda like this. It's not centralized as I thought.
Given someone unfairly or mistakenly flagged can reach out to any participant to have it/them removed.
@reazuliqbal, thanks for clearing this up, you guys have my support.
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Not Censorship, Clean Up.. There's always 2 side to a coin but I get what you're implying. Cheers
Clean-up is definitely needed but this may not be the best approach.
I've personally created designs for clients from crypto projects to local hotels, took the time (usually a couple hours or so) to create, only to be flagged here as "spam" on the sole (only) post titled 'my latest work:'. Why? Because a whale (I won't mention) thought only STEEM content should be allowed.
Everyone's definition is clearly different, the rules of what is spam and what should be cleaned up should be hard-coded not selected by people.
It's not censorship though. It's pretty much taking the rewards away by consensus. The posts are still visible. You can't censor on Steem.
@adetorrent It is a form of censorship yes...
Akin to brand labels being blurred out for TV or YouTube. The symbol exists on the original but can't be seen by public without some 'digging' for the original copy.
Consider Steemit the big screen and STEEM (blockchain) houses the original copy. If a post is greyed out and you need to click something to see it (like porn sites), it's censored.
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