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RE: The Difference Between a Person and Everyone.

in #economics6 years ago (edited)

You don't post often but perhaps you ought to. This was well written, presented, and thought out.

I don't agree with it all though. I still think a utopia is doable. But I think people are going about it the wrong way. If you want to change human nature so that we can arrive at a point where we all look upon one another as being on the same team - being family - as opposed to someone we are in competition with for success and survival. Then you have to start with the languages we are speaking, because they are perpetuating both the adversarial mindset and also the distancing ourselves from our responsibility that makes it so easy for us to play society's game where the losers end up on the streets or dead.

With the right language, one that is shaped around unity and not self-preservation but preservation of the species, then we would build a utopia without even having to plan it. It would just come naturally.

That;s what I believe anyway.

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I agree with your statement... however, i do not feel they will call it utopia. So, i also agree with my statements.

Changing from a lack mindset to an abundance mindset
Changing from an US vs Them to a live and let live mindset
Changing from letting everyone walk all over you to having actual, real boundaries (including property ownership, for you, neighbor, community, city...)

As we become more compassionate and less quick to anger, we will get to peace on earth, and probably much more.

But, i don't think the future me will call it utopia, probably something more like, duh, this is just the proper way to love your neighbor.

Its irrelevant what you call it and I have to contest these points:

1, it's irrelevant that there's not enough money to pay the interest on the loans, because value is what one person or a whole group of people produce, and if the bankers want to collect the fraudulently designed loans they are going to be walking around empty handed because nobody had a contract with them, least a lawful contract and so the point of paying off fraudulent loans is moot.

2, If the currency is tied to a resource that never grows in supply then it's all a matter of accrued value, as was exemplified by the monetary system under which the colonists prospered unprecedentedly, or Colonial Scrip which was based on land as the resource backing the currency and as the land grew in price so did the currency grow in value. So in turn when Benjamin Franklin was befuddled by the dismal poverty in England he said to the buffoons in Parliament that even if they (colonists) had poor houses there wouldn't be anyone to put in there, because prosperity was EVERYWHERE.

3, The Alaskan Petroleum Fund that pays all the people living in Alaska a dividend and has been doing that for over 30 years demonstrates without a problem that money doesn't come from taxpayers and that indeed EVERYONE benefits. I don't need to present the fact that many countries have free healthcare, and everyone benefits as well, but I can tell you that taxes on the rich (100k or more a year) had been as high as 93% and the periods of such high taxes correlate with economic boom (not simply growth) and tax cuts on the 1%'ers corresponded with bust cycles. It might be a coincidence, yet this is the horse's mouth

4, That's a non issue as clearly one GeoThermal Plant can produce till the sun swallows the earth, and production is the realm of machines not people as there is NO INDIVIDUAL that could compete even marginally with a machine, and the only issue is that there's 50k miles of oceanic rifts that could satisfy everyone's greed x10 which produce numerous resources, both ferrous and non ferrous and there's no end to them yet we are pushing rubber on asphalt to pollute with petroleum emissions and burning coal to make coffee and light our homes instead of the alternative.

The dream of utopia is realized only when you can face the reality of the above stated facts, all else is what you think people think when they "dream" of utopia. Case and point, it's not an issue of "enough" but of interfacing with a database that's the problem from your point of view, because we can "dole" out resources which don't say scarce anywhere in your problematic premise, but we cannot assess each others needs, as if wants and needs are interchangeable in the context of necessity. They aren't, and confusing the two is equivalent to arguing that we cannot assess people's individual needs.

Then you have the opposite, where a person designs their perfect world, not realizing that all people think differently and that one person's idea of heaven, is another's description of hell. Applying the personal to everyone doesn't work.

Everyone needs certain things and if they claim otherwise who's going to think twice to put their stake on that person's stuff they don't want. The idea that everyone thinks different is moot here and now: even animals understand what Theft is, and even animals show empathy, yet "everyone" thinks differently, you should have told Edward Bernays that, he only is the father of consumerism and his application of "everyone thinks different" ain't anywhere, in fact it's quite the opposite and the demonstrated Saga of that sagacious observation is all around you.

If only the redundancy proof of everyone thinking differently was anywhere in the real world and not only in some hypothetical that cannot be manifest in an infinity of universal permutations, we would have utopia already, but it's quite the opposite, maybe one in a million Thinks Differently (good one apple, was that a jab at M$oft for stealing your shit?).

In conclusion, yeah statistics equalizes the individuals but the individual efforts accrue in groups and the potential is for exponentially more, a nuclear fission.

1, it's irrelevant that there's not enough money to pay the interest on the loans,

This is the most relevant and important thing on the list.
We only take out mortgages because we feel that it is normal.

If we knew that mortgages are a death spiral, that with just one mortgage, that ALL the houses will be foreclosed upon (because that is the mathematical end) would we ever sign a mortgage?

The answer is, probably, because that is the system, and there are no other alternatives.

Fractional reserve lending destroys everything.
All the other points stem from the FED being in existence.
You have heard of the benefits compound interest, well, we are living in compounding destruction. Nothing can get better until that is stopped.

I will give you that but on the caveat that it's not fractional reserve banking that's doing it but simply because the money is created by loans to the government for which the government is charged interest, because fractional reserve banking has been around for 5 centuries and going on 6, and what ills us isn't that, but the inflation built into the money supply, and you're confusing that with predatory lending and outright fraud as the signatory is the creditor, actually the Primary Creditor. Mortgages and the whole economy is built on the credit that is ours, and backed by us, but because our fiduciary agents had no interest in fulfilling their responsibility to us and we've effectively allowed uncle Jimbo with the bad gambling problem to be in charge of or finances, and eventually, like Jimbo knew the moment he had to take a loan to pay a loan, this will come full circle, the bankers think though that their bunkers staffed by pleabs will be safe for when they pull the plug and nobody is gonna be a fool and buy back the gold confiscated constantly for 80 years now from the people, so they have about one shot at starving off the impending credit and mortgage bubble because the people are ready with the pitchforks, except now we have fully automatic integrally silenced air rifles and the internet, not just pitchforks. The debt isn't real because it's been a fraudulent business of double booking and because the debt is instantly offset and canceled by the credit backing it, which is growing at a rate far greater than inflation and that's if the fed thinks anyone is actually gonna pay them, yet the fraud is that they get paid by taxes, as the Grace Report outlined, 100% of income taxes goes directly to pay the interest on the national debt. Wrap your head around that and keep in mind that debt if it can't get paid is simply forgiven, I should know, I have someone that owed me about 20k, and can I in good conscience demand any of that once I understand the situation is basically my fault, akin to trusting uncle Jimbo, and that I can't blame the other person for not keeping up with promises, which comes right back to contracts which are fraudulent on the basis that nobody can predict the future, so exactly how can you contract without claiming you're a prophet?

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