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RE: If there is a God, why do so many bad things happen? @ecotrain Question Of The Week
Good and bad are labels created by humans. Nothing in nature is good or bad it just is. God/ the gods are nature not mankind. They have their order to the universe not good and evil.
I think that's too simplistic. The ideas of Good & Bad are extremely profound. For example, there is moral good, such as not killing another person. Food can taste good, but that doesn't mean it taste moral by any means. Another way to look at the principles of Good & Bad might be Order & Chaos, which I would say nature is a prime example of those two principles clashing.
But moral good is also humanist. Would you say A wolf is bad for killing a deer? A toad for killing a fly? An alligator eating it’s young? We may consider these bad, but would a god? The more we learn about nature the less I believe chaos exists. You are certainly correct good and bad does exist because we exist. And I would most definatly say a person killing someone is a terrible thing. Very interesting topic! 😊
Not at all. I would consider them a natural part of the life of animals, and that to us it isn't a matter of Good or Bad. It is a matter of survival and sustainability. They must kill in order to survive, and to some extent so do we. Living things need to consume, basically.
Let me ask you this, do you think, if given the ability to, a deer would consider it Bad if a wolf killed another deer?
I ask because I would say that to a human, considering our ability to think on such a critical level and in an abstract sense, the principles of what constitutes as Good & Bad are much more than natural phenomena. And I would suggest that through observing Chaos in ourselves we have created these concepts. We know it's morally Bad to kill another person, likely because if people didn't have that moral then there would be mass killings all the time. We would essentially be animals.
Also, cheers for the response. I agree, it is a very interesting topic and your engagement is appreciated. It's got me thinking, haha.
No problem 😊 For me I would say with the deer question that would be personification of a deer. Ie Human characteristics. We know neadrathals has morals and were much smarted then portrayed by the mainstream. They had elaborate Barrial rituals and clearly thought of life after death. We could assume then that good and bad are not limited to humans alone... now you got me thinking! But that’s what we are here for! Wish you the best! Following
Ah, but that's were the crux of the issue lies. In your first post you said that Good & Bad were labels created by humans, but now you suggest morals are more than purely human.
So, I suppose the question now becomes something like, "Do the principles of Good & Bad affect morals?" Plus one-hundred others. Man, this rabbit hole keeps getting deeper, haha.