Healthcare is a basic human right.

in #healthcare7 years ago (edited)

Healthcare should no longer be a market, and honestly, we should have changed this in America by now. Single payer is the future. Yes taxes would rise, but everyone would benefit in other areas which would make it completely worthwhile; business owners would no longer have to deal with offering healthcare plans, employees would save hundreds year over year by simply not having to pay for a plan, premiums, or copays at all.

As for the constant argument that this would somehow "enslave doctors" (lol), I would point out that every other major country has gotten this system to work for them, and the doctors do not claim to be slaves.

We as Americans must stop putting money over our basic humanity...

We can spend billions and billions on more weapons and better drones and more devastating bombs, but we can't figure something out so people don't lose their life savings or spend the rest of their lives in debt because they got sick?

We are stuck in a system where the cost of the care you need is being negotiated by some suit while you deal with your health issue constantly worried on how you are going to pay for it.

It is time for this very reasonable change. Americans are dying for this kind of relief.

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It cannot be a right if it requires the work of another individual.

I do agree that single payer is the way to go though. It's just not ethical to require participation at the threat of force. Here's something to think about: The United Kingdom is often held up as an example of how a modern country should implement universal healthcare. The population of the UK is roughly 65 million. Last election, 65 million voted for a pro-universal healthcare Hilliary Clinton. That tells me you don't need the support of the rest of the nation. Make it optional, and build a single payer system for the benefit of those who support it. If it turns out to be successful, more people will flock to it. Being a single payer, they should be able to be competitive with non-governmental hospitals and private systems. Let's give that a shot.

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I agree completely. I am totally open to that idea as well. Also now I am regretting using the exact terminology of "human right", but it is really just the sentiment that we should put humans before profit that I wanted to convey in the title.

I can imagine people who would want to go to private insurance would even be able to not pay into the single payer healthcare system with some kind of proof when it comes to taxes. But honestly this seems like it would just complicate things more.

In my opinion, we should move to a streamlined single payer system using blockchain technology to keep patients records in their own control.

Not sure blockchain is the right technology. My understanding is limited, but I believe that the biggest benefit of the blockchain db is integrity, not confidentiality (which would be required for medical records).

There are actually a few projects that I think can have a great impact on the medical field. Patientory is a medical records project that let's patients keep their own records on the blockchain, and offers complete privacy. Dentacoin is some dental project. It's still so early in this space, but the potential is enormous.

I think human rights is the wrong fight here. The problem is your Founding Fathers are in favour of negative rights and that's where Shapiro get's the doctor slaves from.
Positive rights creates obligations in others.
Instead, side step that and go for the social contract "what society do we want and how do we afford it?" Then you can concentrate on the economic inefficiency of your current health care system.

Thank you for that insight! Very good point.

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Single payer is UNCONSTITUTIONAL so if you believe in our Republic you cannot believe in single payer. And Socialized medicine is 'not' working so well in other Countries as proven by their lack of care and long waiting lists.

  1. The Constitution can be amended. It's happened a few times, maybe you've heard of the 2nd one?

  2. It's working out much better than our shitty system. They have the care they need, and they can actually receive that care because it doesn't cost them their life savings.

  3. Waiting lists are going to happen in any medical community.

  4. HEALTHCARE SHOULD NOT BE A MARKET

80% of Americans liked our healthcare system as it was but would have liked improvements such as being able to buy coverage over State lines. The healthcare itself is the best in the world! I agree. If you want to amend the Constitution then amend it. You don't shove illegal laws down our throats because 'some' don't agree. And the only people who were having issues with coverage were 'illegals' who shouldn't even be here in the first place! Look what the Democrats have done these past 8 years. They've flooded our cities with illegal immigrants adding them to the phoney numbers of Americans without healthcare. It's all bull. Our citizens do not go without healthcare! They tie 'insurance' into healthcare adding millions of nonzcitizens to their numbers and destroy the good that we do have.

In order for everyone to have healthcare taxpayers will have to pay for it. Why should I be required to pay for your healthcare? I work between 50 and 80 hours a week, every week. Yep, I'm greedy, sure am. Nobody has ever said to me "Hey, you stay home today, I'll go to work for you so that you can get the check."

Same goes for childcare, free college, free housing, subsidized housing, subsidized businesses, damn near EVERYTHING that we pay for honestly.

Wonder what Laura Hilliers family thinks of Canadian style healthcare? She needed a bone marrow transplant due to leukemia and there simply weren't enough beds to accommodate her, even though there were people who matched her type and were willing to donate, she DIED waiting.

Numerous donors were a match with Laura and ready to donate, but Hamilton's Juravinski Hospital didn't have enough beds in high-air-pressure rooms for the procedure.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3435131/Friends-girl-18-leukemia-sign-casket-loving-messages-final-goodbye-died-waiting-hospital-bed-shortage-Canada.html#ixzz4xcH7TsV4

Yes taxpayers would pay for everyone's healthcare, but it would cost much less for the working class. Employers would save money not having to deal with insurance companies, and employees would save tons of money because they would no longer be paying premiums deductables and high prescription costs. You are already paying in to Medicare and Medicaid. So we ramp Medicare up to include everyone, and in turn do away with all the costly paperwork and extra fees ($100 per pill of aspirin in a hospital for instance). It can be done, and it would help everyone.

Your example above is an awful situation, and I feel for her family, but don't forget right now we have panels of people in suits at insurance companies that decide if people live or die based on what they can afford. Further more, millions of Americans have already gone into life crushing debt just to pay their medical bills. I am one of them! The greed of insurance companies has gotten out of control, and we need relief.

Also, I would like to add that even if we did have a single payer system, it does not exclude the possibility of having private practices where wealthy people could pay a premium for any care they wanted... Which is essentially what we already have, except everyone is currently forced to buy into it, and thus going broke to stay alive.

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