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I think there are still not many women doing that job. I suspect the men bosses still think women are too emotional to do a high-stress job. (Obviously not true!) I remember when the first woman engineer (drives the engine) started working. Tough job for a woman working with all-male crews. But she gained their respect, which allowed more women to be hired. (I remember when I was first working and one of the older crewmen told me flat out that I couldn't be working there because they didn't hire women! Which was mostly true up until then.)

The Santa Fe and most other large railroads ran both passenger and freight trains but they were losing money with the passenger trains. To keep them going the government created Amtrak for the passenger side of the business. Passenger trains still ran on their original routes owned by the various railroads, but paid to use the tracks. The railroads had to pay penalties if those trains were delayed so they were always a high priority.

I was hired after Amtrak was created and when I worked as a clerk it was for Santa Fe only, and freight cars and crews only. When I became a dispatcher it was still for the Santa Fe, but Amtrak ran on the tracks I controlled.

If I had been working there before Amtrak was created I would have been granted a "rail pass" - free to ride any passenger train anywhere in the country! That sure would have been fun!

If I had been working there before Amtrak was created I would have been granted a "rail pass" - free to ride any passenger train anywhere in the country! That sure would have been fun!

Yes.. it would have been so much fun😉 did you feel regretful sometimes? Do you think that they still need many men or women to keep the tracks going? I mean.. in this computerized world? And still.. I think woman still find it difficult to develop their skill because so many work-men still feel threatened by the woman in their masculine work.

So.. the railroad belongs to private business company? Not the government? Or it's kind of national private company? Like a "Toll road" you know.. you need to pay if you want to use the free-highway?

Do you mean have I been regretful that I didn't get a rail pass? Sure. I would have liked to ride the trains more. I don't regret my time there, or leaving it when I did.

It has been over 30 years since I worked there so I don't know what all of it is done by computers now. While I was still there they eliminated the caboose and replaced it with a red light at the end of the train. There used to be an engineer and fireman (the fireman used to shovel coal when there were steam engines, now they're like assistant engineers) in the engine and the conductor and brakeman rode in the caboose so between them they could keep an eye on the whole train. The main danger was the wheels getting hot and catching on fire, usually because one of the car's brakes got stuck. They could get so hot the wheel could melt and the train could derail. Then they upgraded the braking system so a hot wheel could be detected with a sensor before it caught on fire. So no need for a caboose. The railroad would automate the whole thing if they could and use fewer human beings! But unfortunately for them they still need people to watch the computers! But less as time goes on. Railroad workers have strong unions to protect their jobs.

Railroad work was hard and physical, it needed strength to pull the heavy bar to move the tracks and set the brakes. Not a job for a weak woman! Then some parts were automated, I could move a track from a distance with a lever, and later by pushing a button! Easy for a woman to do. But the men didn't like women encroaching on 'their' territory. At least that was so when I was there.

Amtrak is owned by the government. I think it never makes a profit but takes government money to stay in business. Like the post office loses money every year and has lots of competition with private companies but the government pays to keep it going.

Whoaa.. now it became clear, why so many men didn't like when women took their job. Because women would work smarter then men too, to save their energy for domestic chores.

So proud of you @donna-metcalfe 😉 you still remember everything so well. Have you ever experienced train accident caused by derailed or the brake?

I think you have the right explanation!

I have not experienced a derailment in that I watched it happen. I listened to the stories of the 'old heads' - the ones with a long experience - and they saw many.

As a dispatcher, yes, I'm who they would call on the radio if a car or train derailed and I would send emergency crews and notify the bosses, coordinate with police if roads were blocked, many things to do when an accident happens.

The worst thing I experienced, but not in person, just by radio, was when two trains 'came together'. That means one ran into another. One train derailed and tipped over some cars. There was a lot of damage but only minor injuries, thank God.

I was immediately taken to a doctor to take a blood test, to see if I was on drugs or drunk! (Of course not, but they did it to protect me.) There was a big investigation to see who was at fault. Did the engineer not see the red light? Was the red light not working? (When a train is on a section of track, which can be miles long, the lights on both ends are red to any other train approaching that section.) I believe it turned out that the engineer on the following train wasn't attentive (possibly sleeping).

As a dispatcher I had a long display board that showed lights where the trains were. Red for a train, green for empty track, and a yellow light that showed between the red and green, when the train was almost clear. Similar to what the crews would see. On my board I could see it happen, one train not clear before the following train entered that section of track. I called and called on the radio but it was too late. Very bad, very stressful. I think by then I was already thinking I wanted a different kind of work!

There were always 3 dispatchers on duty covering different parts of the district, plus a 'chief dispatcher' who supervised them and made out delay reports. I worked that job too when I had more experience dispatching. A woman, supervising 3 men. They liked to play tricks on me but when I just gave them the 'stink eye' they were nicer. They got together and bought me a bottle of Maalox - it is for heartburn! I thought it was a very nice gift since they were the ones who gave me the heartburn! :-}

A woman, supervising 3 men. They liked to play tricks on me but when I just gave them the 'stink eye' they were nicer. They got together and bought me a bottle of Maalox - it is for heartburn! I thought it was a very nice gift since they were the ones who gave me the heartburn! :-}

hahahahaha... I know how hard for them to work under-supervised of a women at that time. must feel like working for their Mom. If you're not resigned that time... what's the highest position you can reach, Donna?

Being a dispatcher is good training for other management jobs, but a promotion would have been sideways into another department. Dispatcher and chief dispatcher go by seniority, and I had very little compared to everyone else there. I would have had to wait until they retired to move up!

With a sideways promotion I could become a station agent or trainmaster (an agent is in charge of a freight station, a trainmaster is in charge of a switching yard) or other departments. The highest job would be general manager, in charge of the whole district. But all possibility of advancement was blocked by the boss who didn't like me. He would have to give me a good recommendation and he wouldn't.

I will tell you that story. My boss (I will call him Jay) was one of the dispatchers who trained me and was later promoted to a slightly higher position. A new female dispatcher was hired (I'll call her Dee), she was a younger sister to the first female dispatcher. But Dee was not nice like her sister. She was pretty and used to getting her own way. She would come in late - that is a very bad thing - and she was sloppy when turning over her shift, not telling her relief what all was going on - again, a very bad thing.

Well, she and Jay started 'dating' and it was supposed to be a big secret. They were both single so nothing wrong with that but it was against the rules for a boss to date a subordinate. But it wasn't a big secret to us and Dee took advantage, more than before, and the other dispatchers were getting angry.

I thought I had a friendly relationship with Jay so I told him privately that he should be more careful. But he got angry at me!

In the next yearly review he wrote that I was absent too often - a flat lie because I had not taken any time off or even any sick days. I said it was wrong and he said it was too bad that I didn't keep my nose out of his business! No one heard him tell me that. But because of that review I was the only one who didn't get a pay raise and it stayed in my permanent record. He also found things to criticize and other ways to make trouble for me. It was then I started making plans to leave and you know the rest of the story. At the time I was so angry at him but if it wasn't for him I wouldn't have moved on to a better life!

I know I am writing too much, but the memories just bubble up!

Thank you for sharing that with me and the rest of other.. whoaaa.. I thought that something like that only happened in the movie, but You've experienced it. Now, I know why you'd better resign that staying with that cinemathic scene. I have a sister working with very bad boss.. but she keep her position because she has a little boy and her husband doesn't earn much, lucky that she knew how to get rid of stressful works. but it's nothing to compare with what you'be been through, Donna.

Wonder how they're end up with that kind of story line though. hey.. you can make a story about it later and really "go to the moon" and winning the lottery too.

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