Defending Your Border Is Evil? Gaza and the Embassy

in #israel6 years ago (edited)

After seventy years of unending war by Arab Nationalists and their Islamic Supremacist allies Israel is still being called the aggressor.

People who would never trust the mainstream media are all spouting the same disingenuous headline talking points when it comes to Israel.

It has always amazed me that people who are so "woke" to the problems that come along with a 5 to 10 percent Muslim population like we see in Britain and France can be so obtuse when it comes to the situation that Jews faced in the Muslim dominated Middle East.

People who are all for defending their borders against people who are looking for yard work condemn Israel for defending her borders from people who would break into their home and stab a thirteen year old girl to death.
After committing this heinous crime he would not be condemned by the Arab community, instead he was celebrated as a martyred hero and his family recieved monetary rewards.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Hallel_Yaffa_Ariel

On 30 June 2016, a 17-year-old Palestinian male broke into a home in the Israeli settlement of Kiryat Arba and stabbed to death Hallel Yaffa Ariel, a thirteen year old dual Israeli and American citizen, in her bedroom.

The attacker's mother praised her son as a martyr defending Jerusalem and the al-Aqsa Mosque and hoped others would follow in his path.[13][14] A banner with pictures of Tra'ayra and the late Yasser Arafat was hung outside a building in the West Bank village of Tra'ayra's family, and the family is eligible for $350 a month from a Palestinian fund for martyrs.

These assholes beleive that stabbing a thirteen year old girl in her bed is a great way to defend Jerusalem and the Temple Mount!

Peaceful Protesters my ass!

Trucks of peace, religion of peace, the outright lying to your face Muslim apologists employ is easy for anyone to see here is a women condemning the Manchester attacks with her words while showing her true message on her sleeve so to speak.


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The interviewee, who gave her name only as “Sid”, tells him she is "devastated" about the bombing and denounces extremism, saying: "This is not what our Islam teaches us."
But viewers were left questioning if the whole thing was some kind of sick joke after noticing her burka was emblazoned with the word “love” – spelled out in weapons.
The 'L' is a pistol, the 'O' is in the shape of a grenade, a pocket knife makes up the 'V' and the 'E' is a machine gun.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3658084/channel-4-news-manchester-bombing-interview-muslim-woman-burka-love-guns-grenades/

David Horowitz Joins Joe Walsh to talk about Israeli Embassy

Time and time again I hear Israel described as an agressor, if that is the case why do the countries that have made peace with Israel have no problems on their borders? Jordan and Egypt have had peaceful relations ever since they ended the war they declared.

Then we come to Syria a poor country that Dindu'nuffin and now has foreign supported jihadis destroying their country.
Israel's involvement has been held up as proof of her Evil ways, what a joke!

After seventy years of Syria supporting jihadist terrorists inside Israel and Lebanon trying to destroy those countries and succeeding in Lebanon what is happening now to their country is just the chickens coming home to roost.

In Lebanon Syria supported Islamic death squads that set up road blocks and kidnapped, robbed and murdered every Jew or Christian they could get their hands on.
That once Christian nation that used to be known as the jewel of the Middle East that had universities renowned throughout the region is now an Islamist shithole.
Hezbollah the Islamists who run Lebanon were preparing a repeat of their 2006 attack on Israel when this group was drawn away to prop up their ally the National socialist Baathist party( No that is not hyperbole but an accurate description of their politics) of Syria.

War sucks but there is nothing stopping Syria from rescinding their seventy year old declaration of war against Israel nor would any rational person condemn a country for turning their enemies tactics against them.

The leadership of the Arabs of palestine has been at war with Jews long before the creation of Israel.
When the Jews stopped hiring Muslim Circassians as bodyguards because they were setting them up to get robbed, in 1920 the Arabs rioted and massacred Jews.
In 1941 the leader of the Arabs of palestine Mohammed Amin al-Husseini organized the ethnic cleansing of all Iraqi Jews.
With the rest of the nation's conquered by Arabs following suit and raping, murdering, robbing and driving out their country's indigenous Jewish population.

Stop believing these tired old Marxist lies, I don't care if Marxist Jews like Norman Finkelstein, Noam Chomsky or B'stelem tell you that the cause of Arab oppression is Zionist Imperialism when anyone can see that it is Arab leadership that has kept Arabs from palestine in refugee camps for the past fifty years while Israel has absorbed millions of refugees into it's country and settled them properly.
The Palestinian authority has received more money than was spent the on the Marshall Plan.
That's right the money spent to help all of Europe recover from the second world war.
The leaders of the PA tell children that if their blood is spilled during a martyrdom operation the smell will be beautifully fragrant.
Take some time and listen to what these leaders of Hammas and the PA say in their Arabic speeches.

When you find yourself agreeing with CNN it's time to give your head a shake


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Excellent article.
Why is so hard for people to understand that when an armed force (and the Gazans ARE armed) comes to attack another armed force and tries to invade their territory, that they get shot!
Only a few weeks ago in Syria, an armed force tried to attack US forces over another de facto border (the Euphrates river) and the US smashed them killing 200-300 of them. No one made much of a fuss.
Its no different at the border with Gaza except that Israel tries to minimise enemy casualties.

If assemble a force and enter a conflict zone to attack a stronger military power you should be very lucky that they don't kill the lot of you.
Israel only killed 60 out of 40,000. Israel would be perfectly within its rights to kill all 40,000 enemy combatants in the conflict zone.

howdy @openparadigm well said! Israel is always painted as the evil aggressor in every situation by almost everyone except the U.S. It's ridiculous. Israel has done more to help mankind and the rest of the world than anyone besides America and yet she is condemned for defending herself and why we give millions every year to the Palestinians is beyond my comprehension. Great post!

You're right, their leaders say what they want all the time.

These videos about the post from Hamas are from the Foreign Affairs Minister the last 2 days.

@openparadigm you are brave.. especially to say this on steemit. And if you see the clear double standard from MSM and the pods defending the barbarians then you know it's something else.. it's that classic hatred of a certain people.

Way easier to say this on steemit than it is on youtube, :]

not if you are flagged into nothingness. I have seen a number of accounts nuked here. I also have to unfortunately say some of them didnt deserved it.

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If you put a fence around me and call it your border, and you keep squeezing me in and I live in dire conditions, yes I will try to push back. Then you can say I attack your border.
All he same, we can argue until the cows come home who, after all these years, is in the right. The fact is that the geopolitical landscape was irrevocably changed by the creation of the state of Israel. We can call it a land grab, we can call it a rightful gift, the truth is in the eyes of the partisan beholder.
Without going back to the Balfour Declaration, there has, since 1948 been wrongdoing on both sides, and if anger is understandable on both sides, no amount of violence can be justified on either.
After all these years of strife, we are left with a David and Goliath (just referring to the size and power) situation in terms of political power and weaponry, with one unfettered nuclear nation continuing its bid for expansion (see Golan Heights) with powerful western allies on one side, and a ragtag assemblage of resistants, for want of a better word, with fewer consequential allies, internationally ineffective leadership and an abhorrent religion..
Bottom line, I doubt that provocation (on either side) is ever going to yield a lasting peaceful solution, and if we, miles away who for the most part don’t have a dog in this fight, can gouge each others’ eyes out, metaphorically speaking on the subject, it regretfully, doesn’t make me too hopeful about the possibility of peaceful cohabitations …
However, if we can transcend such divides as wrong vs right, left vs. right, liberal vs. conservatives, Jews/Zionists vs. antisemites, and step into a new paradigm, maybe there is hope.
But maybe I have better odds of seeing a unicorn at my window tomorrow morning.

David and Goliath?

Can you expand on that?

You are looking at a country surrounded by enemies. You talk about being boxed in? That's what being boxed in looks like. The conflict would be easily ended if other "brotherly" states stepped up and encouraged absorption of the Pal's... but guess what.. NONE OF THEM WANT THEM. - protest that.

I think we have to look at this through the prism of global alliances as well, and I am not sure that on a local level it is a strict Arab/Jew issue either. We have to factor in the phenomenon of uniting against a common enemy as in the game of alliances Iran/Syria/Russia and USA/Israel/Saudi Arabia. Jordan and Israel have a peace treaty in place. The relationships between Israel and the countries highlighted on your map are more nuanced than the map indicates. For example, between Israel and Niger, there may not be official diplomatic relations but neither are there official trade or travel restrictions.
Regarding the Iran nuclear deal, the following countries are aligned with the United States: Israel, Bahrain, UAE, Saudi Arabia, the last three being Arab/Muslim countries.
When it comes to the game of alliances, yesterday’s foes become today’s friends and vice-versa, according to how it serves their interests, and there is a web of alliances that go beyond your map that complicated matters further.

There is no nuance in the fact that in all these countries Jews lived under the apartheid of the dhimmi laws for 1400 years and in the past century all these countries ethnically cleansed the Jews from their lands.

Thanks for the video. I’ll watch it over the weekend.

Thanks for taking the time.

Ever been to Singapore?
Its a similar size to Gaza and a higher population density, but they've made it a Paradise.
In contrast, Hamas has turned Gaza into Hell.

Its not about your size, its about what you do with it.

Singapore is indeed a model of economic development, Notwithstanding the cultural differences that may account for their different paths, I wonder to what degree we are not comparing apples and oranges. Beside the fact that they are both fruit (tiny territories) and both have seeds (population) that hang from branches (British control) before they are picked, their respective histories post 1948 are very different, when 200.000 refugees ended up on the Gaza strip, with the attending misery in a war-torn land. Two years after Singapore gained its independence, Israel occupied the Gaza strip.
There are many different factors to consider beside those two, so I don’t know whether it is a fair comparison.
I am enclosing links as food for thought for fellow Steemians who might be interested in pursuing this Gaza-Singapore compare and contrast activity.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9965/gaza-strip-singapore

https://stngiam.wordpress.com/2014/07/28/if-the-gaza-attacks-took-place-in-singapore/

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/07/opinion/l-gaza-city-state-could-be-singapore-of-mideast-365688.html

Wonderful comment of a true critical thinker. You just have to look at the history and context and the reasons behind everyone's actions become patently obvious. It's like that with most things in the world, but especially politics. The ancient Romans used the phrase cui bono, to whom is it a benefit. Apply that to each and every political action and you will eventually find the perpetrator.

I second your notion that these issues are politicized way too much. What it comes down to are classical virtues like truth, justice, liberty and peace. From that standpoint the situation is clear as day. It's not about religion, it's about power and greed. Has always been, will always be. That's why the powers that run this show create hot button issues like you mentioned to divide public opinion and divert from their true evil agenda. They fool the public into the illusion of choice while they can secretly carry out their unilateral plans. The left-right paradigm is a major deception that can only be broken by people realizing that their main needs are basically the same and they need to stand up to the evil powers in unison.

As for your peace wishes, Nuttyyahoo made that part abundantly clear when he said that there can be no resolution to the Middle East conflict without accepting the truth of Jerusalem’s status as the capital. Of course that's just one of many reasons that is used to further expand Israel's terror grip on the region. Their main goal is the Greater Israel Project which has been known since the 1980's. Maybe that's the 'cause' @bearbear613 is referring, too. That was sarcasm of course as he clearly has no idea what he's talking about.

yes the Greater Israel Project.. I just renewed my membership - pod

I think you'll find my stance on this issue is neither pro-Gaza or pro-Israel. I gave a reply to an article by @deliberator here kind of stating where I am at on it.

https://steemit.com/israel/@dwinblood/re-deliberator-question-time-israel-20180515t204908238z#@deliberator/re-dwinblood-re-deliberator-question-time-israel-20180515t210648707z

The trouble often starts when parties show up uninvited like the US in Syria and the Israelis in Palestina and my country long time ago in Indonesia. This is true for a nation but also for a house of a child as you describe. And on steemit hopefully discussions go peacefully.

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