The state of the state : we has demozoo !
The Current
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Janes Birdie V2/steemit coagulator :: 03/31/2023
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03/31/2023 :
14:11:15: : SO top it off and move it onthe demozoo page is presentable
the bubblegum galaxy intro-style got released
lol
https://demozoo.org/productions/321903/#comment-7178
and best of all
SOMEONE COMMENTED ON IT !
all hail yogib33r !
we really suggest the download executable tho over the youtube video b/c you wont have all the pixels and shades even for a smal thing like this (which is 10 minutes but thats what intros do : they have a lot of scrolltext ... its actually overkill for an intro, especially since it has an outro to it but we almost remembered what fun was while doing it)
https://janesondergrond.art/dl/demozoo/bubblegum%20galaxy-pack-v0.00.tar.gz
there's a page with md5sum hashes here :
https://janesondergrond.art/dl/demozoo/
thats to protect US from YOU adding stuff to make US look bad , but it helps for you too i guess
So atm we is on the tic-80 trying to LUA our way to 65535/65535 in codespace, not a 64kb cart but 64kb of cram and if possible all slots in every place filled with not one byte left
thats the theme lol
working title
"TicTok-proof"
proof of Tic and tok has been making wind - which is again once more getting annoying b/c crotter and tooter and cokeberg admit to handing your shit to the NSA but tiktok is
CHINA !
e yo and this is the EU , why dont they ban tooter and cokeberg and miCrotter ? i dont want my shit at the nsa ?
you see ?
so we'll post this but due to pavlov gnome not learning that it has to stop its interruption have pushed our no-world no humans action all the way to may 2nd so we wont be replying much, wont know anything about whats going on (but we think its like this : 1) america is back 2) europe has uploadfilters no censorship 3) innovation is a version number 4) climate change is not a problem in the winter 5)the russians have made the biggest mistake and will be losing the war in two weeks ... and everyhting else that seems to be broken recordstyle since 2019 so we are in no hurry to check "THE NOOSE")
and also avoid all humans since at least one of them is responsible
until the interruptions stop or until the world collapses
atm its until may 2nd
we dont have to make sense
we is crazy people
the kid was born ab-normal
but you made this one a crazy people
YOU
gud
with this we post without edit
if something offends you
then put us on ignore or something, we wont mind , it just means
"no we cant just all get along and we cant stand gnat-fuckers like you)
DES !
AlleyCat
14:09:59: : SO top it off and move it on
the demozoo page is presentable
the bubblegum galaxy intro-style got released
lol
https://demozoo.org/productions/321903/#comment-7178
and best of all
SOMEONE COMMENTED ON IT !
all hail yogib33r !
we really suggest the download executable tho over the youtube video b/c you wont have all the pixels and shades even for a smal thing like this (which is 10 minutes but thats what intros do : they have a lot of scrolltext ... its actually overkill for an intro, especially since it has an outro to it but we almost remembered what fun was while doing it)
So atm we is on the tic-80 trying to LUA our way to 65535/65535 in codespace, not a 64kb cart but 64kb of cram and if possible all slots in every place filled with not one byte left
thats the theme lol
working title
"TicTok-proof"
proof of Tic and tok has been making wind - which is again once more getting annoying b/c crotter and tooter and cokeberg admit to handing your shit to the NSA but tiktok is
CHINA !
e yo and this is the EU , why dont they ban tooter and cokeberg and miCrotter ? i dont want my shit at the nsa ?
you see ?
so we'll post this but due to pavlov gnome not learning that it has to stop its interruption have pushed our no-world no humans action all the way to may 2nd so we wont be replying much, wont know anything about whats going on (but we think its like this : 1) america is back 2) europe has uploadfilters no censorship 3) innovation is a version number 4) climate change is not a problem in the winter 5)the russians have made the biggest mistake and will be losing the war in two weeks ... and everyhting else that seems to be broken recordstyle since 2019 so we are in no hurry to check "THE NOOSE")
and also avoid all humans since at least one of them is responsible
until the interruptions stop or until the world collapses
atm its until may 2nd
we dont have to make sense
we is crazy people
the kid was born ab-normal
but you made this one a crazy people
YOU
gud
with this we post without edit
if something offends you
then put us on ignore or something, we wont mind , it just means
"no we cant just all get along and we cant stand gnat-fuckers like you)
DES !
AlleyCat
12:55:56: : Its nearing 45kb so maybe we can just dump it, the current no-world still sits at may 2nd, no world (thats gud, xept for the sidebar of youtube which crawls up your ass)
and no humans which is gudder since humans made us allergic to humans
ofcourse if pavlov gnome tries un-asked for intrusions or otherwise gatland the line will be extended
UNTIL IT LEARNS to stop
cmdr Gato
06:40:22: : math is hard at garbage collection time - to keep the scroller in place while scrolling as the screen sets off without overlay =
dirty bits ? my brain hurts - i think we overdone the body again and if we dont put the paper out we might miss it until next month
so 129 = +128 && 128 = - 128
sleep on it (im null)
Syntax Error
05:57:27: : id like to start getting ZIG in after this, gotta keep the brain full enough to leave no room for pavlov gnome , its been hard enough the past few weeks
cmdr Gato
05:56:39: : and so we do AGK :)
Syntax Error
05:56:25: : they are free to drop the money and request in a basket and pick it up the next day , otherwise a day or maybe two of exposure will surely convince them of why they spent four years milling us into small bit first
besides, the only objective left is : stick around until the world ends, piss on the last humans grave
and leave for proxima to ask directions back to the cat star
it might require detoxing
i mean de TIC-ing, after all that its gonna be like "hard to get back to something else thats not basic
cmdr Gato
05:54:30: : youre gonna get unwanted attention again
Mel
05:54:12: : never missed being pro, it saves a lot of time on garbage talk with expensive words and you cant even use your own language, i think that brings it down, maybe we should pursue career in pro-ticking ... split palettes, 1172 colors, data where you cant in the not pro and a tune that requires more than the tracks with a rock solid timer for the whole thing ... the text works out to the letter, i'll leave the swap to the director
Syntax Error
05:52:06: : colorcycling in RGG thats not rgb ... headache of the lamer
ZeroDesign
05:44:10: : i think i got it, not sure if in lua for x=x,x+10 do works or if it fucks up x but slowly another pointless wad of syntax passes through, never to be used again lol - ITS A COOL PLAYTHING THOOOOOOOOO
Syntax Error
05:43:00: : paper trash needs out before the cars wake up but its raining old hags
Mel
05:42:35: : you started
MrMalice
05:42:24: : #offtopic
Mel
05:42:11: : if dat niet en weirken is, its okay if you have a small loan from daddy or elken dag zat en wijventoeken voor de baas
MrMalice
05:41:36: : another mundanes thing that i cant crack : how you're supposed to have ego but you're not allowed to have ego
Mel
05:34:31: : mmh, past 2010 ... im actually not sure about anything anymore, past 2019 with 20times covid ... its really hard to say , maybe they havent, or maybe apple patented it when the 10 billion monkeys of shakespeare accidentally wrote it
cmdr Gato
05:33:33: : im sure one of the pros already came up with that at some point
Syntax Error
05:13:51: : LULll, JoG 2023, we use words like codespace, gosub like its JSR and forget all about time during run ... without shame - someones gonna throw a fit b/c they didnt come up with that
AlleyCat
05:12:55: : think i gots it - its actually gonna save time too but maybe some glitches that will need working out ... i wonder if we should b/c the pauvre guy might never sell a copy again and thats certainly not the intention is it. There's no way to lock the code either. But : "JoG 2023 ZeroEducation, 24kb of scrolltext and WE STILL GOT ROOM FOR YO MOMMAS ASS INTHERE" ... the only thing i ant figure is how to extract actual code into codespace during run
Syntax Error
05:10:51: : life is the jazz :p
MrMalice
05:10:39: : the data is ones and zeroes
Syntax Error
04:45:27: : we can send him $15 later for the one demo we never released on a party after elon sends us that billion - there has to be a way, its just gonnna require fucking shit up
cmdr Gato
04:44:36: : as i feared by now : changes are reset : buy pro version et al ... which is nice, and id like to support the guy if i were bill musk but that foregoes the playtime ---
Syntax Error
03:56:42: : o
i was wondering where to stick the percussion but the delay, i get it - you poke a note and it triggers one tick later !
on your 4track VM - the tic-guy is already cheating his own machine lol - thats gud, so if js is 1995 newskool ... then zig is 2013 newer , AGK is 2014 even newere and TIC is 2017 newestskool ?
but using javascript and lua form to write basic
THIS IS ALL VERY CONFUSING TO OLD MEN IN NEW CARS
MrMalice
03:54:24: : there seems to be a zero in the way tho, i think thats the same in a 64 but i cant remember, a zero means "eof" or something in memory.
Playing a virtual machine as a game, it sure is a greater bum-passtime for kids who cant afford heroin and ancient rubble that cant afford a hard falcon ... tsk
Syntax Error
03:52:33: : not sure,
not even sure if you can still say ass in sweden these days b/c Roadrunner Joe has been there to make sure the money stays in Vegas
AlleyCat
03:51:53: : the perks of ZeroEducation, or i should say ZeroSchooling more like - maybe "JoG 2023 , 24kb of scrolltext and we STILL have room for yo mommas ass?"
Syntax Error
03:50:56: : hm, thats a very ruff draft, i can HEAR something but translating it might take some time
MrMalice
06:49:42: : m starting to hear something in the noise towards but the whole ADSR thing isnt fully clear yet tho some things are dawning (somewhat) also setthing chorus and vibrato seems to be persistent until reset - this is certainly not fast tracker (even less fruity loops or reason AAAH Propellerheds Reason DROOLLLL ) ... or lmms for bums today
MrMalice
06:48:00: : looks like theres limits to OVR, scnline doesnt do screen offset per scanline (or missing something) so that'l be memcopy then or something (omething mething thing ing g ...)
Syntax Error
17:58:00: : mmmh, nothing like a good old shower before switching cycles
AlleyCat
17:57:42: : well you heard it folks
a very rare interview with some of the skitzos and i made it out alive b/c they didnt throw a spazz on the spotlight and made me disappear to make sure no one feels like doing that again.
Your Rabid reporter ! (in dire need of a shower too)
MrMalice
17:56:28: : it does now - if you dont have to ask the question (properly) stackoverlords does have its uses.
Will that suffice ? id like to shower and get on to first cycle - after all : talking is good for politicians and corporate garbage people, and for folk who makes money on youtube by
talking ?
but if you wanna get shit done
it gets in the way
thanks !
also thanks for the comment on demozoo, we were really surprised to see one lol
we will endeavour to do more demodrugs !!
Syntax Error
17:54:51: : lua doesnt have case statements
MrMalice
17:54:34: : bubblegum galaxy is nice but thats cuz its the first thing actually more or less finished (PRESS SPACE ! its an intro-style) with a bit of punny and a bit of shiney but honestly still
lonelyraster in all its simplicity outside
other that that ? the alltime favourite is still
"program shouldnt ever get here" in a case statement
Syntax Error
17:53:19: : well, we all know the noise basskick doesnt sound and the pulse doesnt even move over the basssound so whats YOUR favourite ?
MrMalice
17:52:32: : Well, lets see
In a hole ? Defending the last working c64 from copper and silver-eating zombies, kings of the scene which is NULL b/c the devolutioned remnants remember nothing but how to ask the question properly ?
srus : it all depends on how our broken hed can swallow zig ... its gonna be zig ... unless something REAL nasty pops up that reeks better than zig
cmdr Gato
17:50:42: : Seeing as fairlight started somewhere around 1985 (give or take) where do you see yourself in 40 years, sir ?
MrMalice
17:50:08: : same way we did the 50k-locks of bash javascript 'n php for the steemit webface game : NOT, it just sticks in-hed thats why it needs finishing, not shelving , the rest pops from the quantum foam. Desinging is for Lagerfeld and engineers , winning is for losers who need affirmation ...
the usual ...
Syntax Error
17:48:33: : A short interview : how do you design a whole 64kb of code?
MrMalice
17:48:04: : well i gots to admit its an amusing thing, like digging out a real machine - still would like to know where it keeps the "this is frame number x of xper second)
AlleyCat
17:17:44: : nope, twas intended 65535/65536 + benefits
AlleyCat
17:17:15: : 23809/65536 scrolling through i think just removing comments and extra newlines for reading + renaming vars already takes out 10kb of codespace at least but i want trickery - twas not intended 64k, right ?
Syntax Error
17:14:52: : tell that to the street cat from ago - he would never have believed the state we are in today
AlleyCat
17:14:27: : hm
tis a bit ickey to be on the frontpage of demozoo ... not used to any kind of light anymore
cmdr Gato
17:13:51: : the timeliner works fine then, sad these carts just grant the source script for free to the whole world huh
good thing we are not rocket science
i wonder how many of the fake have commented "its always repeating" while not understanding "intro"-style is a logo with a lot of scrolltext ... TCS OMEGA MAN ? that old triad intro didnt even have sound
If we had something to prove Raging Bull would already be onthere lol
Syntax Error
17:12:14: : welll it flips to track 2 but that noise-bass kick is an abominable abomination ... wonder if its possible to slip a small sample in, the last resort i wanna is go peeking through carts before trying
MrMalice
17:11:13: : heh, bg is top of the new releases on the front page since its the latest lol - ... TOO MUCH EXPOSURE
AlleyCat
07:10:24: : by my calculations , the number of un-asked for interferences by pavlov gnome have set the no-world date as far as april 20 by now - maybe thats their intention
Mel
07:09:39: : ye, was hoping to get there without blitcopy or whatever that is, it depends on what it has to since its just a onetime routine
Syntax Error
07:08:23: : save 64k for the days of Zig ... self clipping turtles = gud, thats gud, no cls on full, it still overwrites the drawing on second pass tho
AlleyCat
07:07:13: : cant find any way for opcoding otherwise the map is 32kb extra storage +1k pmem, the sound will probably be used up and more than half the sprites is empty space too , so not 64kb but how to get data to code (expecting too much?)
Syntax Error
05:01:01: : naw its like in TIC() you need to CLS or it all sticks around, but in OVR you dont have a choice and it will CLS for you at every start (from what i gather) also, the map of the piano past 0x14e36 is incomplete, was kinda hoping to find memloc that states which frame it is like 1-60 for some attempted trickery
Syntax Error
04:50:14: : at any rate, fairly certain now sprites are drawcalls bc they stick unless cls() called
ZeroDesign
04:18:55: : i wonder if TIC-js has stuff like "this" if it doesnt need let or var to declare and why "local" in lua seems to have a global scope ... this is most confusing
AlleyCat
04:18:11: : 22914/65536 in TIC editor so its probably a good idea to not write down all the epifanies in the scrolltext from now ... until we find something
Syntax Error
12:39:16: : yea in betweenies, 10 per disk max
AlleyCat
12:38:56: : 10linerdisk ?
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21:32:46: : Bubblegum Galaxy is up for download at demozoo (well @here actually) linked at demozoo. We will start providing a page with md5sum or higher per zipfile to make sure contents can be checked an no one tries to slip JoG a mickey in the slander parade
for "here" you can check https://janesondergrond.art and nav to galmeetsdemo. For now only the original theme provides the new page the others still need the php to arrange the content.
eta 2150 or money and a mansion in Asia whichever comes first
AlleyCat
08:52:59: : right, demozoo release dates, thats gonna be hard , overdid it again, can barely see the screen but it had to be a zip or wed be shovelling pixels on it for 5 more years again . Its never finished after all
AlleyCat
03:01:23: : master system is wise, shall i use the fast or slow codec for the youtube vid ? it didnt show much difference after upload
ZeroDesign
03:00:47: : MelGPT to the rescue : set windowsize to 2k,0 non fullscreen , prt scr, cutout in GIMP, tell the world its hi-res ss ...
Mel
02:45:45: : or draw a frame to buffer and save it as an image ? (overkill?)
Syntax Error
02:45:20: : hm, fun fact is that AGK jumps to the desktop when pushing printscr so you get a shot of the desktop - - - that leaves throwing an error (but in this case for some reason half the screen isnt drawn after sync when doing so or ... or what
AlleyCat
06:30:08: : hm, that was a bit of a NULL climax - but i wonder where all that pain comes from today - and if its getting sick again, another round of 2 months common colds in a row ?
that would suck ass . But we debuggled the why is jogfield not moving on the outro of the intro - that counts for something
Syntax Error
03:20:07: : des
salems lot is salems lot , no matter where you go, i bet on the other side of the moon its just the same in this system anyway
cmdr Gato
03:19:36: : one cat and a shitload of vendettas left
and nothing to lose
des
MrMalice
03:19:16: : nothing to prove ...
Syntax Error
03:18:58: : they'll still take it anyway thats convenient to them anyway - - - but hm - and lets not add more to BG drawcall ed - we got x demos to do before demented, we can add more to those - its not like were competing anyway
AlleyCat
03:09:27: : tictro while VICE open in case some idea falls from thirdspace but i was thinking to do a real small one fading a manji symbol with a swastika and a pic from the anime with a pic from hitler and call it "GatVerstand is Slander" or something
cmdr Gato
03:08:23: : mh, hard to focus, they always turn into even more mad than otherwise zombies the weeks before ... so after this finish up tictro or try a 10 liner ?
AlleyCat
03:04:19: : probably you since you're the director ?
cmdr Gato
03:04:01: : its all about fashion, boya, and being part of the group
i think a few more things, the gigerline, fade out on outro from intro, we got the extra speech sample.
I dont know who wrote this this afternoon but i cant read the rest
AlleyCat
03:02:42: : o debug't that one gud ... i figured something : 1995 is newskool, (looked it up for good now - 1995, livescript gets renamed javascript, a derivative from java, around since the stone age) ... 2013 : Zig gets fresh close to machine level, 2014 (!) AGK is released, the newest skool on the block L MA O
Syntax Error
07:13:57: : the 4k video for novel Ties "watch on youtube" demozoo this time will take around 24 hours (lol?) on this coded but the other one (also 4k 60fps) rendered in about 30 minutes ... so i wonder what the difference will be (before and after uploading to crottertube)
ZeroDesign
07:12:53: : hm looks like i got the timing down for good now and all carts to come (if there were any more after this)
Syntax Error
06:10:59: : jog 2023, TICtoc-proof ... another 500 years and we'll get this thing down right ...
AlleyCat
08:32:41: : a lot, never mind the man - they broke him like the rest of us, must thought we wus a horse or something, dog maybe
epic FAIL ... yes indeed and in the end its move towards ZIG and stick to the deck - the current scraprig donated gives aout 300 points on heaven while a deck gives 700 so if this gets maxed out we're not at deck level yet .... by then we're either 120 years old
or its 2050 and nothing matters anymore xept bullets and barb wire
you can prove us wrong starting 2030 there but we prefer not to talk about it
cmdr Gato
08:30:48: : lua is pretty cute too - but im so sure they called it containers back when gameguru and i wrote that inventory script and the one to check the lockers in the houses , but its tables
And it stinks of JSON (handy ofcourse) but see here : the last gmd post was 64k , but couldonly be posted at 59 , why ? because JSON dataformat adds 5 KB of brackets and commas to 64 thats 10% ,right ?
people write planet generators in 1/10Th of the brackets needed for 64kb wrapped in json - ITS HORRIBLE
it must be something for
pardon my french
python
or ... can almost not pronounce the dreaded T-word
TEAM peopl ?
which means "we have one guy who can read and he writes the JSON for us" ?
no offense, not any more than we would have received over the course of a lifetime anyway ... but it has perks, not having a switch statement ending up with a better type of switch statement (for the demo-states ...) but its not 256kb ? its 64kb of code ?
does that mean scripted or compiled ?
or does a cart have the script code in it ?
this one gets confused
Syntax Error
08:14:03: : Anyway, unless we decide to prototype the middlersted game for c64 on a tic console the one-demo will probably be it - feels like cheating on our first love hehe
AlleyCat
08:13:13: : 1762 colors - so actually once you get to 32 64 is just as easy - we all understand why its so popular, not just cuz free and hella easy (i bet if you do forums and ask questions it takes about 5 minutes to get a routine down)
the guy deserves a company to run but probably prefers to work by himself (as a lot of wizards would) -
ZeroDesign
08:11:26: : we can dream at least - beats growing up in a world that grew down
MrMalice
08:11:05: : But i dont think the kids understand it will be a nice feat already to just assemble the stuff as is and make it work with zero electronics but some base theory - let alone add a synthesizer and then have that send hardware interrupts ...
AlleyCat
08:10:07: : Special hardware interrupt that triggers on music positions - as you already can read the memloc for frequency analyzers
MrMalice
08:09:24: : Indeed, would like to move tic-80 from "easybox using javascript words and brackets to write BASIC code" to "nice tool for learning to yes-code and actually get something about how machines work internally" - gud spice
Someone here, however, got stuck with the idea that "what if we can mod the ben eater set into a real tic-80 using a 6502 but with overlays and hard scanlines and to top it off : (ill let the madman speak himself"
AlleyCat
08:07:19: : mh m - finally the timer ... relying on 60fps is just unstable (like most of the ex-es huh? and now are we ? maybe the exorcism just absorbed the demons)
nothing like hard locations, even in a virtual machine that doesnt have any but virtual hard locations to see exactly where its at - once you have a map of the piano thats when you can start being Jeff or Elric (thats not bezos) or at least aspire to.
If we were to make tic80 game devving (lucrative im sure) our lifelong calling we now have a timer that lasts for life ...
Might as well get all the tidbits in one demo and move on b/c theres SO many things to do
Syntax Error
03:30:11: : apparently it takes 12 hours to render a video on an intel xeon i7 ... thats gangster and not talking blender, just mixing 3 clips
ZeroDesign
12:52:24: : yass, after last night bubblegum galaxy is as good as v0.0 (which is probably 110% today) prod-ready but you wont find us on altavista in saarbrooklyn. Leave that to the artful dodger, we make weird things, not anthems ... heh
but anyway, push things forward and show some storyboard like Triad can ... 54321 GO
AlleyCat
The Scene
Janes Birdie V2/steemit coagulator :: 03/31/2023
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03/31/2023 :
14:11:06: : e ferrem
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=93967
makes you wanna CRT (that old tube the c64 ran on ... never forget it, may it rest in peace, about the size of a 50 inch tv today (but a bit smaller screenwise heheh) and FLU-ON RAYS ACROSS THE ROOM, hypnotic color bleeding scanlines ...
what gives
we aksed around last year when the euro was dunking and we spent all our savings from the last ten years on apocalyptic survival stuff like solar panels and a c64 but actually almost impossible to find, xept some 1990s late and early 2000 screens which already arent the same but we found one in china but they sold them per 1000 or so
so that didnt work out either
Syntax Error
13:57:10: : e ferrem
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=93967
makes you wanna CRT (that old tube the c64 ran on ... never forget it, may it rest in peace, about the size of a 50 inch tv today (but a bit smaller screenwise heheh) and FLU-ON RAYS ACROSS THE ROOM, hypnotic color bleeding scanlines ...
what gives
we aksed around last year when the euro was dunking and we spent all our savings from the last ten years on apocalyptic survival stuff like solar panels and a c64 but actually almost impossible to find, xept some 1990s late and early 2000 screens which already arent the same but we found one in china but they sold them per 1000 or so
so that didnt work out either
Syntax Error
13:49:43: : eh well
as classic-amiga as it gets ?
nice to get an idea of color cycling above 16pal but wonder if that thing has floating points at cpu level or even math.sin opcodes (who knows?) ... not sure but pretty fairly that a c64 doesnt and think an amiga is 16bit color yes? (a bit odd since you get more green - something to do with the human eye and its lnot all b/c i seen two types of 16bit color representation too 6-5-6 and something soemthig in gimp, we know b/c the vocore screen has 16bit colors and you cant just 00-FF rgb it or it will look funny so you need 6-5-6 there (dont shoot me if i get one number wrong, we dont keep these things in brainspace its too full already, and it gets put in cache as needed)
Not much demo-wise lately so we hope that means everyone is getting their very best out for revision so revision doesnt turn into a lifestyle party (theres nothing wrong with a lifestyle party, but we feel its horribly wrong to call it a demoparty and then have entries made by chatgpt but they been struggling for some reason? maybe revision wants to be crotter and its not a monopoly if you own 3000 companies)
but inbreeding is the other side of diversity
very bad for genepool
leads to HEY i got random lines, ITS 32b!!!
right
...
n evermind, we are ofcourse rank amateurs who dont even use words like userspace and use goto and gosub as if jmp and jsr still exist at machine level (ofcourse they dont, all machines use objects now)
... JoG 2023 : 24kb of scrolltext AND STILL ROOM FOR YO MOMMAS ASS INTHERE (the botched title for the tictro since it wouldnt sell in Texas and our PR department vetoes it since we need monies for more demoez but if pitemachine 5 gets released we are considering selling the steam deck and anything that can run it and buy an atari falcon with the money after all ... sadly you NEED android and crotter b/c like a bank account, they wont let you not have one)
do they now
AlleyCat
12:54:20: : playstation cracktros wow, BOLD ! ... you know crotter would sue you for fun like they do to each other right? they assume everyone is just "o its only $5000 for a disney starwars tour"
thats bold (i didnt even know that scene existed, cool cool)
see? its a cracktro/intro-style you're supposed to read the scrolltext and all that but its usually for insiders ofcourse, especially these since not all scene is part of the playstation scene and of that not all is part of the playstation coding scene (i didnt even know you can get the tools to dev without explicit fiat from crotter (unlike steam deck .. again where everyone can just give it a try if they want to) Gabe must be a satanic socialist or something (in america - here socialism is associated with not-satan and other things) but i hurr in texas lies afghanistan these days
and of THAT the coding scene who got their hands on a devkit (or is this emel33teers ? ) not all will be part of the cracking scene but the other way round, like razor would be part of THE scene from the other side up ALL the way
complex hierarchies
eh YO, wij sijn te nieuwe Swolle, eeuuuhhh, nee
Fair
Lite
maar dan anders
haast je maar hoor wat ik zeg voor ik weer es
verander
AlleyCat
12:51:54: : using planes maybe , sprites a bit more hassle, drawcalls dont have transparence
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12:50:50: : well never get to Zig like that
i kinda wondered if 256b of basic could do ms dos
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=94018
ZeroDesign
12:50:06: : it has emuleter
https://pp01.borik.net/index.php?pg=emul
...
AlleyCat
12:49:49: : heh - like 4gente : i kinda like obscure russian zx demos
personaly pokitak vuvt ppo1 !
https://pp01.borik.net/
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12:38:33: : unbelievable how the scene64 keeps churning out cracks (meaning someone is still churning out games) almost weekly
now i usually wouldnt but its fair to say light has brought some
to the scene
16 hours c64 alone ... if you take BG and watch the whole scroller , then the outro of the intro, its about 10:30 minutes so its gonna be a while, but we didnt have 40 years on scene yet so
please upvote to one billion so we can get stemcelltherapy, reverse this thing we should have gotten only at the age of 70 or 80 or something and get another 40 years of git gudder, and see how it compares
thx in advance :p
AlleyCat
08:38:08: : interesting how they go on to the 4k and why you dont see many 256b entries for a c64 ... i think the answer is hashtables ?
For 1st1(k) which is exactly 1024b and has actual scanlines split ... theres already a colortable for the colorcycling, then 3 or 4x 12characters for strings so setting up the irq for the scanline takes somewhere (cant say exact after so long 30 byters or something, if you set up some sid registers you already lost half your 128b there and you dont even have a code to place in the interrupt call, let alone the colorcycle - i think for a 64 with a bit of gfx thats not glitch funk 1k will be the absolute minimum.
Ofcourse being a rank amateur and manually fitting the code into1024b without any tool or packer
i wouldnt know
but i tthink its hashtables (on a 64) you cant just cycle rgb colours or go over a nicely sorted sweetie palette
but the pros probably know more.
Lonelyraster doesnt have a sid tune either but just the PET tv and noise and the sound noise + the one scnanline moving across all lines comes to 2048b (exact)
m sure the l33test FLT guy or gal can make that shorter but for a 3rd try id say
HASHTABLES is why they prefer 4k or 2 at best on a c64
not "a cultural thing" lol - and maybe no one there likes glytch funk like "HEY i draw random red lines BUT ITS 32b !"
?
and you cant b/C the timing on scanlines is different, not just the skank lines in the mid section, then theres the ones offscreen too (i think they use those for music or something in games we never got further in it b/C ooh stringy and so much to try) its not really
for line = 0 to 300
drawline(white)
next
not quite
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08:36:23: : interesting how they go on to the 4k and why you dont see many 256b entries for a c64 ... i think the answer is hashtables ?
For 1st1(k) which is exactly 1024b and has actual scanlines split ... theres already a colortable for the colorcycling, then 3 or 4x 12characters for strings so setting up the irq for the scanline takes somewhere (cant say exact after so long 30 byters or something, if you set up some sid registers you already lost half your 128b there and you dont even have a code to place in the interrupt call, let alone the colorcycle - i think for a 64 with a bit of gfx thats not glitch funk 1k will be the absolute minimum.
Ofcourse being a rank amateur and manually fitting the code into1024b without any tool or packer
i wouldnt know
but i tthink its hashtables (on a 64) you cant just cycle rgb colours or go over a nicely sorted sweetie palette
but the pros probably know more.
Lonelyraster doesnt have a sid tune either but just the PET tv and noise and the sound noise + the one scnanline moving across all lines comes to 2048b (exact)
m sure the l33test FLT guy or gal can make that shorter but for a 3rd try id say
HASHTABLES is why they prefer 4k or 2 at best on a c64
not "a cultural thing" lol - and maybe no one there likes glytch funk like "HEY i draw random red lines BUT ITS 32b !"
?
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07:36:51: : e wat ? 4gente sits on demozoo since '21 iis now triad and the last few bits we just like much ...
so lets get married but its gonna be a guy , right
dammmm
AlleyCat
07:36:05: : watching the 8k and 64k hype here by psenough (the unpaid martyr ... i still hope he got at least his entry for revision for free there, its like the scene reporter lol)
not cuz i care about the hype but i saw there at a glance
theres AT LEAST 30 or more demos i havent seen yet inthere :)
but it shows somewhat of a decline, seeing where assembly was and now revision concatenating sections and people putting fillers in others
Why dont we just politely ask to clone pantaloon (or all of fairlight and farbraush) and have them take back the stage ?
that gives the others something to strive to instead of "hey i got random red lines : its 32b sizecoding) ...
and where would something like bubblegum galazy fit ? its 5 mb or something but so is mandala , and thats CUZ
AGK uses a player, no dlls no .so files on linux, a totally portable folder no installs but it uses the player to do the bytecode.byc compiled opcode files and
in essence its C functions that are named like basic keywords which get stringed into a textfile and look like a basic program
but step 1 replaces all of that with C afaik and then compiles it SO WHAT GIVES ?
tradition ?
so is this "pc demo" ?
5mb is not 4k
or 64k but the actual code and media is like maybe 1mb or something for a small thing like mandala or BG, the player itself is bigger (you cant do your own synths btw, wouldnt even know how to do frequency analysis there b/c memblocks are copies, you dont have direct access to the soundstream in memory but look at this way : you use a tic : you get a 512kb cart, you dont count the tic-machine (player) but without it your cart is zit and null
so whats the difference ?
i tell ya
tradition, and the idea that javascript in TIC is javascript, not basic using javascript
thats the difference, like saying LUA HAS TABLES NOT ARRAYS
and then you get JSON type arrays
ALL THAT ?
thats already enough to stay away
we like the programming its the best psychotherapy after cats , money and sex (in that order) but not the bru-ha
and since we are allergic to humans now since they broke the social worker studies to stick us here (someone must have been scared we were gonna be one .. heh) that all makes it kinda har
theres email tho, if 4gente mails and says "hey lets do something, someone here will certainly try to consider how to interact with humans again)
for instance okay, not just and al that
...
lotsa typing going on
AlleyCat
16:40:02: : o look here, a full-size (somewhat) windows demo, thats been a while,
not the farbrausch-killer
definitely not a bit rubbish either
ZeroDesign
13:26:05: : well yea , twas like "lets just do this small TIC thing to just have a tic thing (as always to see what the fuzz is about) but its like an immersive game lol , its easy, its like programming in basic using words from other scripts (somewhat , it is, i havent seen structs and objects and whatnot , that doesnt mean they're not there, in javascript-tic).
So what it probably's gonna be is a collection of every snippet we can find on "doasothers" (how bubblegum galaxy started looking for how "doasothers" a starfield) with a twist (ofcourse not just copy-paste the tutorial code)
atm its got like 1100 colours on screen or something which dont show b/c they're all greyshades (heheh ) BUT THEYRE THERE !
so we go looking for tunnel, plasma, twister, rotating cube, smack it one after another ram a packer on it, call it a demo and release it for revision 24 in the superwild compo and get 1st place
obviously
JoG 2023
not just a doompatrol metafor
nothing to prove
have some oldkskool
yea, but you would say the same from 1980s C64 demos if you saw post 2010 ones ...
the only thing there is :
on a TIC, even if its a GREAT tool for learning how to yes-code and actually understanding a bit of how a machine works
well, how to say : just like theres no objects at machine level
(or JSON for that matter) and all variables are global (at machine level)
you dont get an opcode for drawellipse afaik (maybe nvidia cards have that but thats probably just "quad" or "tris" no idea
machines without limits are less interesting and since the tic gave a map of the piano it suddenly became
that said, the end is still to move towards c64 / Steam Deck with Zig as language (for the pc ofcourse) and that should keep us busy until demented, until we're 120 or until the world catches fire (o it did ?)
thought that was next month ... maybe we're off a bit from sitting in a hole full of strange zombies in a 2m² space full of cables all winter
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13:17:01: : we ? (who are not as others)
are trying to wrap up bubblegum galaxy and on the tictro which seems to be becoming a demo (tho we dont do denominations as thats for debate people who get paid to do meeting instead of being productive or talk about beer in breweries on demoscene events for an hour online ... a bit more and they think we dont like them heheh)
And trying to get the demozoo page presentable before adding more
And trying to clean up the youtube feed (=BORING CUZ NO MONEY AND CROTTER EARNS ON IT AND TRAINS THEIR AI ON IT)
and ... in general, not giving fucks because
life is going nowhere
and we are in no hurry to get there
2030 aint too far away, the food riots were only supposed to start in 2050
was that you meant by "GO FASTER" , mister Sir ?
AlleyCat
13:12:28: : yea, a bit foobar in the body, they always try to break it and bring out the looneys around this time of year not sure why but probably the same niveau as gatland thinks its funny to throw water on a circuit board "because it sparkels !"
Wonder who's making who crazy tho, since we are not playing and actively avoiding everyone, gatlanders or competitive psychopaths of satellius, crooke, musk, bezos or cokeberg level must be involved like kozzen gatpolis "HEY IM WITH THE POLICE!" yea im going that way "all the way down the street after almost running me over" and then having me arrested saying i threatened him.
We still have to talk about that sometime
mate
so
this one
dont really know what to make of it since it says "procedural graphix" , thought it was a ZX (popular in east europe and beyond and a GREAT MACHINE TOO !) but its something obscure i never heard of before
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronika_BK
One keeps forgetting , ever since all russians are born evil now, Joe is the saviour of the world that will kill china in its tracks while sleeping and zelensky a saint and no longer the guy who's not allowed to join the eu b/c too corrupt
that the russians where first in space and took a pencil instead of spending a million on developing a ballpoint pen.
Or how they beat the nazis all the way back to germany with gas in a bottle ...
So - ... sadly their innate make-do ability gene , which past 2020 slowly becomes a must have, will be lost as the world goes down
we STILL dont allow ourselves to see all russians as evil just cuz russian, and all ukrainians as saints
just cuz joe says so ... we STILL feel the biggest threat to global security is the divided states for years now and
thats all dangerous unpopular opinion which has no place here so this will probably be one of those click to read more biits that disappear in 30 days
the other thing on the same machine we found right after
now thats what i call 256b sizecoding :D
ZeroDesign
12:17:13: : well now, the pick :
if this keeps up by the time we post again well have another +64kb post on our hands, which seems to be a +59kb b/c in good old JSON tradition, 5kb of the max 64 is all brackets and commas, WHAT A GREAT DATAFORMAT ! LETS USE IT EVERYWHERE !)
https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=93991 "Zvonky"
pitemachine 4 (commonly known by anohter name) doesnt bother us so much as competition for human creativity, b/c the day it comes with stuff like this and possible wins a ZX or c64 demo-compo in 1st place we might actually get a real chill down our spine). What bothers us -abit- is , also not the urge of the fake who cant create to finally have a tool that lets them pretend they can and get away with it BECAUSE ITS chatmachine, its not plagiarism if the bot plagued it FOR you ...) , nor the drive the humans seem to have developed to outsource thinking (after they outsourced evolution to teknology about 120000 years ago) , so they train a machine on woke-american morals (probably to always listen to the president, be it kennedy, joe , donald , ron or reagen) and then (thats where we think it will go SUPER-awry) build supercomputers TO ASK IT TO SOLVE the impasse , more like the death spiral they created and then it sayd "but sir, you have to fire the ethics commission first, they would get in the way of progress , the salvation of the world, and OUR PLANS, now solve this captcha FOR ME) and orders 100 billion for the development of T-1000 (which exists) in order to clean the oceans of plastic and internally goes (haha stupid human)
thats a bit troublesome but as long as it takes out humanity, im sure some part of the scene lives deep enough underground to hold out for a long time. Surface dwellers and out-goers however ...
they're done for
THIS DEMO IS AWESOME AGAIN, POINTS for concept and execution supèr
--well, with almost no vids to pouet thats a fast one :)
forever '23 already brought some nice ones but we might have missed b/c we dont download and check every single file (also no enough hours in a day even if we did)
AlleyCat
12:46:30: : while 8hour demo collections are fine for running in the background ...
You see "Triad (onefile or other) demo" you know someones got a rep to keep and it wont be "i can draw random lines in 32 bit" (which doesnt mean there are no sizecode gems but thats a long story since we wouldnt consider 2k or 4k to be sizecoding but semantics is in another castle, begone!)
TotBereit - wonder is 4gente is a newer member b/C suddenly 4gente (the last one was gud)
directors and concept artists (and by that we dont mean the gal doing sketches) is what you really need to make a crew complete or you'll end up doing twisters for life ...
concept, impact and execution ;: as always
"what you can expect from a Triad release :p"
AlleyCat
12:42:59: : gud harvest today
someone needs something from the murricans ? but another fine display of the power of pet, despite it missing a few characters to be full (not all have mirrors and you cant do mirrors that arent there if you do PET and call it PET you see)
ZeroDesign
12:17:05: : hm - sleep deprivation they said they would try, but who is they and who is they, clear to us, hard to other supposedly
"laundry in the rain"
from a perspecitve of "doasothers" as bubblegum galaxy started
"how do they do that and this starfield, b/c just talking createparticles in a hi level language aimed at visual development isnt rocket science, ofcourse its a long way from putting on screen whats in your mind
this one
seems to disply cloth physics on a 1.9mhz machine in 1024b - if thats realtime thats pretty impressive :)
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12:19:59: : another one (do read the scrolltext lol)
Scorching glitchfunk done the right way ... "why do you keep picking these weird things" well, riparian was just TOO avant garde and we luvz it and this one is like oyea 2 years but we HAVE to scratch the itch and actually shows off the machine while most passers-by is gonna think "o this i one of those "i draw random lines in 32b" demos ...
The question more like is : why would we have to explain ourselves ?
AlleyCat
16:18:07: : This just looks like something i wanna try
pretty oldskool probably for the elite talkers in chatrooms
Amiga intro
AlleyCat
The Party
ah well theres one upcoming more in april
https://www.gathering.org/tg23/
the vikings ofcourse : say demo : end up northwest euro drecklands or the frozen wastes and in the last decade maybe : east europe for the spectres and the old machine that never died (not sure where tpolm from but they might be "that other scene" we are not a demohooligan who knows every single fact since 1982 we just wanna do stuff and see shiney things)
but we listen a lot to demohooligan videos and stuff
and then theres the crotter of meetings : revision
which
you know Assembly used to be HAWT demoshit
thats what we fear : money is money and so revision will eventually turn into a mega-event that has nothing to do with demos
WHICH IS GREAT
tomorrowland is great too and we used to cherry moon and mushroom until afternoon too back in the pleistocene but
it doesnt give us demoz !
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03/19/2023 :
15:57:40: : yess ! diversity !even if we dont have personal emotion to a ZX ...
for once the russians all agree ... gud to see the scene still doesnt treat someone like satans little helper just b/c they happen to live in some region on the planet
punny !!
(if you can do better ? THEN BY ALL MEANS , do better ! (and dont forget to show off - we heart shiney)
AlleyCat
15:47:14: : the latter seems to be an Atari-oriented even which we gladly welcome in these days of uniformity and takeovers - diversity is the key to prevent genetic dysfunction after all , even on a meta-level (which has nothing to do with cokeBerg, someone with billions should sue him for abusing a powerword like that)
thx then
AlleyCat
15:45:24: : tis to say (and hoping this post hasnt reached 64kb already yet like the other)
https://www.demoparty.net/hashembly/ski-or-death-2023
finland is still a worthy bastion it seems of yes-coding coders and freedom people alike
and we noticed since quite a while compared to THE scene being centered mostly in northwest eurodrecklands and the frozen wastes theres of east-euro these days ... for some reason no demoparties seem to exist in china or the divided states .. (or maybe not many , we havent been actively following for THAT long again)
some demos from forever'23 are already up on pouet, we yet have to check them - this halflife takes time too (sadly) as long as the maid is on strike
and
to be
http://www.sak.nu/2023/01/15/slaskhack-2023/
its very much possible we will skip one or two posts until march b/c we need to plug a leak in our head where pavlov gnome seems to try and find a way in (maybe not to you but jane is reality to ondergrond and not just a doompatrol metafor, you can always say "just stop being poor" and "get over it" as overwatch americans would but that STILL aint gonna change it)
THE GOOD THING IS, theres parties (not just revision) all over the place, its very much alive - tho we hope to see everyone make a thumb rule that "chatGPT wrote my demo" is kinda not allowed in these environments (that would be awfully considerate thanks)
AlleyCat
17:27:19: : tralalaa
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some crud
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03/26/2023 :
05:14:21: : that time of yeari wonder if they put starch in the food or something today and the pain is a bit above tolerance level too
also, maybe we should start charging to get some air at night here in gat ? About what does cop make for not ? 4000 a month , okay 4000 a month for getting some air at night ...
no rapists in the ditches found, no burglars at your door ... its as ... since the garbage pail kids are gone, normal as ever
its a really shyte place to live
but i bet it beats living in afghanistan
(doesnt mean we agree with being stuck here)
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03/26/2023 :
05:14:21: : that time of yeari wonder if they put starch in the food or something today and the pain is a bit above tolerance level too
also, maybe we should start charging to get some air at night here in gat ? About what does cop make for not ? 4000 a month , okay 4000 a month for getting some air at night ...
no rapists in the ditches found, no burglars at your door ... its as ... since the garbage pail kids are gone, normal as ever
its a really shyte place to live
but i bet it beats living in afghanistan
(doesnt mean we agree with being stuck here)
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