Germany Goes Full in on Internet Censorship

in #life7 years ago

Earlier this week Germany passed a very controversial law that not only breeches net neutrality of many levels, but also censors and puts companies at risk if they allow people on their platform to speak out. The law was made in order to combat hate speech against people on social media, but the problem is the definition of hate speech they use is very open to interpretation. With claims that if places like Facebook, google, ect, don’t crack down on posts that exhibit hate speech within a weeks time, they risk a fine of around 50 million dollars , per case!

Not only is this law ridiculous, but it holds companies accountable for what their users say and how they act. With the amount of Facebook posts being put up every day, it is insane to expect them to remove every single post that might be considered hate speech with a week. There is no algorithm that could possibly remove every single post within that time period, meaning they will have to hire people to literally just read posts all day and remove ones that “might” be considered offensive. The key word is here is “might” because there is a fine line between disagreement and hate speech.

Some people on the internet are very sensitive and label many things that are clearly not hate speech as such. If Facebook puts in a “remove now, review later” policy in regards to posting, it will become very easy to censor people that disagree with you. Facebook is essential in the organization of groups that often might have fringe ideals, but it doesn’t mean they are hate speech. The potential abuse this law gives to other Facebook users is very frightening. Entire groups and organizations risk being shut down because they might just pose too high of a risk for Facebook. This is the same shit we see with banks shutting down bitcoin accounts because the government threatens to fine them if they have even a hint someone is doing something that isn’t completely by the books. Facebook will blacklist users the same exact way.

In many ways it is a breach of freedom of speech rights, not just for Germans, but for many other countries. How is facebook supposed to differentiate from a German speaking American or a German speaking German? They wont, they will just indiscriminately ban posts because they are afraid of the backlash. Germany in general doesn’t have a great freedom of speech past and their laws today reflect that as well. In an effort to stop the rise of Nazism after WWII many things like saying Heil Hitler, showing a swastika, ect are illegal and can give you jail time. This is not how a country that is one of the most developed in the world should act.

There is no doubt that hate speech is a problem online, but this is the wrong way about addressing the problem. It seems like this solution was put up with zero thought to real consequences and increases government control over what is supposed to be a free internet. The internet is and will never be a safe space. That very feature is what makes the internet so powerful in toppling regimes around the world and keeps governments in check.


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It is obvious that law makers need to consult with developers and IT people in the industry to see what is plausible and doable before making laws of this nature.

Making laws about something you don't fully understand is silly. I'm sure they understand hate speech. What they don't understand is the realism of what would be involved in employing human staff to sit and read every comment and ban individual comments or users.

Artificial Intelligence is rudimentary at best. What the law requires is impossible.

Lex Non Cogit Ad Impossibilia

Translation: The law does not compel a man to do that which is impossible

Well in the case of companies, I don't think the law should compel them to do the impossible either.

also a very good point, but most of these politicians have long ago withdrawn from existing sense of reality or rational logic. It's all about maintaining and expanding their own power at the expense of everyone else.

It is a good point, but I think governments need the ilusion of control and power. It is not a question on technology.

Soon none will matter. We are writing things on ice. The AI will rule the cyberearth. It is already happening.

Thought you may also appreciate this post by Martin Armstrong a few days back: Freedom of Speech Comes to an End in Germany.

The most anti-democratic law perhaps ever to pass any western government just passed in the German Bundestag last week. Even the opposition Social Democratic Party (SPD) votes to suppress free speech and it is all geared to end criticism of government. This new law obligates the operators of social networks to block off anything that they themselves view “might be” criminal within 24 hours of receipt of the complaint. Other illegal content must be “deleted” or “blocked” within seven days.

The Bundestag has just opened the door to the same violation of international law all because there is a major pension crisis in Germany that the politicians are attempting to hide prior to the election. Thus, exactly what is a “criminal” is left to the imagination. There is no right to be charged, no right defend oneself, you are summarily silenced.

We should take a moment of silence to remember what freedom once was. These people in power no longer represent the people. They are becoming the worst enemy of freedom everywhere.

This is complete bullshit man. What were they even thinking... they simply as for the impossible and in the end limiting freedom on the internet for all of us.

Can a law like that be enforced on Steemit?
I mean, is it possible that lots of Germans are now expecting a way around that law and look for something like Steemit to express themselves in freedom?
Would Germany ban Steemit if they realize censorship can not be enforced on Steemit or is it possible ?

I think most people who can figure out how steemit works can figure out sorting out a VPN and bypassing it altogether even if they did block the Dns to steemit.com

VPNs ... one has to pay for that right ? Anyways I guess there are plenty of ways to bypass government control. What I would be worried about is demonization and persecution of ways to express oneself as people do on Steemit.

That's a bunch of bull. Germany's society will not progress along with the rest of the world with such censorship. Great post @calaber24p

What a crazy law in what is otherwise a developed and rational nation?

It sounds to me like a knee-jerk reaction to a minority who have been offended by content online. I can't see this law lasting or even being enforceable.

The first time the German government attempt to use this law they will surely be taken to the European court for breaching the rights of EU citizens to express their opinion, and so they should be.

Freedom!!!

What a sad thing to happen to one of my favorite countries.

Considering the extent to which German culture is obsessed with money, I bet this is just a ploy to get some more of that Facebook and Google money. I don't think they really care that much about "hate speech". Germans are just as likely as any other nationality to say hateful shit, so this isn't about protecting delicate German sensitivities.

This is a cash grab, straight-up.

" If Facebook puts in a “remove now, review later” policy in regards to posting, it will become very easy to censor people that disagree with you."

This is what's been going on on YouTube for awhile now with the copyright claims. There is a distinct air of "guilty until proven innocent", and usually the "target" has far fewer financial and legal resources than the "accuser".

Jim Sterling has done some solid coverage on this, actually, but his irreverent style is purely to taste.

This is against the basic right of citizen's, highly condemnedable , this is a wrong way to control ..........

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