Free Will Choice and Causality - DTube

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Determinism doesn't necessitate that there is no free will. Free will choice and determinism are not mutually exclusive. Existence has the natural law of causality in operation. Consciousness has free will that acts as a random input generator into the determinism of non-consciousness operations in the universe.

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On the sides of the infographic are free will and consciousness in green, and dark red for causality and determinism. Inside the green of consciousness and free will, is blue which represents the internal expressions of consciousness, while the red represents the external expression of consciousness. Consciousness feeds-back into existence to influence/affect existence and existence to influence/affect us as consciousnesses. It's a causal interchange loop.

Consciousness can also be categorized as a causal power to generate effects into reality, as such we are causal agents. Normal existence without consciousness has deterministic cause and effect, while consciousness can causally create unpredictable effects, making it the random component compared to determinism.

We can create things within our consciousness, such as a fork, and then have a salience and value applied to its importance, where we can then choose to act upon creating what at first only existed in the light of our consciousness into the real light of reality as an actual fork. The fork started as a cause created in consciousness, and then consciousness culminated that creation into an actual effect that was generated into reality through action. The desire or motivation to create a fork was influenced through causal feedback with existence, but the fork would not have existed without free will and imagination to make it.


Free Will Choice for Creating Effects

We have free will choice to create effects into reality.

These are our actions and behaviors. With our free will we can engage in random outcomes that affect the reality everyone else is also in. No one has access to our consciousness to determine what we will do at all times. Despite tendencies in behavior and conditioning to do certain things, we can always change our mind and do something else.

We have the capacity for caring or apathy, rationality or irrationality, and also the power to create great evil or great good in the world. It comes down to our choices, and if we are thinking about what we do, or simply just do things without thinking about them deeply enough.

Things that are a certain way in our world can be changed. They are the effects that we have generated and created the world into.

If we understand how things got this way, we can change our way of thinking in order to change our way of acting and produce a different way of living in the world.

The potential choices we make are the causal forces to generate effects in the world. There are many potential choices and causes that we can manifest. But we choose one each time we make a decision.

We choose one out of the many possibilities to create a future according to how we act. This is the power we have to affect and create the human world around us.

We don't literally create the world, because there was a world that existed long before human animals came along. There is an objective reality that has many preexisting effects that will affect our choices. All of the information in reality is input as knowledge for us to process.

Everything that exists automatically has a degree of effect upon us, by default, through our becoming aware that it is there and exists. This will affect our understanding of reality and our future choices in reality.

What we receive as input matters, and what we care to have convictions about, will motivate us to act.

If we receive low-quality input or knowledge, then we will be processing low-quality information, and producing low-quality understanding, in order to produce low-quality actions. What goes in gets consumed to become what goes out.

Low-quality in, low-quality out. Garbage in, garbage out.

Caring about inputting quality knowledge and truth is important in order to process that quality about reality into our understanding of reality so that we can then output, generate and navigate reality more effectively.

This is why truth, and more specifically moral truth, is what determines the quality and condition of our individual and collective lives together as a society or community.


No Free Will Choice to Experience Effects

The previous section was about us, consciousness, and our free will choice in how we can generate, manifest, and create effects into reality.

When we generate an action into reality, or others generate an action into reality, then that action has been created and has come into existence. We have no free will choice to not experience those effects. They happened, and if we are there, we're going to experience that reality of those effects.

Whatever happens in reality, we don't have a choice over it having happened. We are not the ones who create what everyone does in reality.

Each consciousness is its own random free will choice generator of actions.

Once someone does something, that is a deterministic causal force that manifests in and affects reality, and we are then affected by reality.

This is how there is both determinism and randomness, both causality and free will choice.

Reality itself, is not a human animal, or another animal, and doesn't have consciousness nor free will. Reality itself, existence, is a grouping order categorization to reference everything that is, which can also be called the universe which means everything rolled into one. The universe, reality, existence, and truth are synonyms for that idea of everything as one, all as one.

But reality is not a consciousness. Consciousness exists where it exists as being demonstrable to exist, and that is found in the animal kingdom. Whatever has consciousness, has a degree of free will to operate beyond simple natural laws found in the universe that affect anything that those laws apply to.

Causal agents can create additional stimulus into reality that will act as an additional source of input and generation to affect the causal interchange that existed prior.

Effects manifest, and are. They become what 'is'. The change happened and can't be undone, no matter what you believe.

Once a plate is shattered it can't go back in time to become unshattered. You can generate new causes and glue the pieces back together, but you can't reverse the effects of what happened to the plate.

Effects happen and can't be changed, but new effects can be created through causes generating them.

New effects can be from the natural laws and forces of the reality in universe, or they can be from the random power of consciousness to engage in free will choice and generate things outside of those natural causal forces, that would not have existed had the consciousness of a causal agent not created it.


Everything in the world and in the universe is affected by causal forces and laws. This is action and reaction, cause-and-effect (determinism). But we (as human animal consciousnesses) have the greatest power of consciousness out of all the animal kingdom, to affect the greatest degree of change upon the universe, reality and existence (free will choice).

With great power comes great responsibility. Consciousness is a double edged sword. We have great power to create good or evil. We must develop the knowledge of understanding ourselves, to comprehend the power we are using now, and the potential power we have to change things.

Recognizing the world as it is can lead us to the potential for how it can be. From a world where rulers in centralized governance and authority act as masters in our lives, to a world where there are no more rulers and masters (anarchy) controlling us and coercing us into immoral ways of living. We're all in this together, for better or worse. The power is on our hands. Our future, fate, fortune and destiny is what we make it.


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Have you read William James on this subject? (He had this viewpoint.)

There is a simple way to communicate the basic idea to other people, by the way.

Observe in the following toy example ABC NOD MVC BOH ANN ACG GOB ACM NMN is both random and deterministic at the same time. The pattern is 100 repeating. That is B occurs and fails to occur with an exact regularity. A properly prepared experimental setup distributed appropriately will measure a uniformity. Another will measure irregularity.

Both can arise from a random process with the correct distribution. Indeed the evidence is that this the case.

There is uniform law over space and time and yet it is a general law, argues James Hutton. The future is like the past in the sense of the law; but different from that past. The future follows the law not in spite of the future being different from the past but precisely because of how the future is different from the past.

Indeed one way to view particles is as perturbations in a sequence of measurements of higher energy quantum events. This gives them the correct larger size and lower energies that we observe Wheeler argues.

Consider the teaching example once more. Suppose the next measurement is not BAD but GAD. The pattern is 10100 repeating. That is for C now and the pattern is at a larger scale. 100... |-> 10100.

John Wheeler and others therefore viewed uniform law as emerging from the statistics of an underlying true randomness. But at a higher scale. At a level that is more coarse.

No I have not. Thanks for the feedback :)

dammed TY, great video

Thank you. Not many people watched it I don't think :/ I appreciate you taking the time to do so :)

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