Voter ID Should Verify Residency to Vote

in #politics5 years ago (edited)

Just Because They Don't Look for Fraud, Doesn't Mean it isn't There

Another mid-term election has passed and the House of Representatives has switched parties. While the news media is making a big deal about the Democratic Party picking up 38 seats, that number isn't really out of the ordinary. In fact, it is close to the average number of House seat flips during the first mid-term election of a new President.



The hot topic of every election is how there is voter fraud or how someone stole election by suppressing a vote or some other nonsense. Yes, there was a time when there was obvious voter suppression, but when both parties are able to make big gains, it is hard to say that gerrymandering or some other change has suppressed the vote. As for voter fraud, most will claim that it doesn't happen. These would also be the same people who say they don't have a roach problem, because they killed the one in the kitchen last night. If you don't go looking for the issue, you won't find the issue.

A course of action to help reduce the possibility of voter fraud is requiring a photo ID to vote. Frankly, I am not going to go into whether or not a photo ID is some sort of way to prevent people to vote, because it is a stupid argument. I won't even show the video where someone asks some minorities in NYC if they had valid ID or knew where the DMV was in order to get one, even if the video shows he people looking at the camera man like he was a damn fool for asking.

If you need a photo ID to do almost anything productive in living life, then why don't you have one?

My biggest beef with photo ID and registration has to do with college students.

I was once a college student and college is a great place to do all the stupid things in life that you hope you will forget. College is a place you go to for a few months and then go back home or some other place, while you wait for the next semester to start. I remember getting locked out of the dorm during the holidays, because that's how the rules worked. You had to go home or somewhere else. The campus was closed.

Your college dorm room is not your legal permanent residence.

And this leads to voting. If you go off to college and return back home, because your parents won't pay for you to live outside of their home year round, you shouldn't be voting at your college. You should be voting with an absentee ballot and mailing it back to your home district. And if you don't know where to buy stamps for that absentee ballot, then you shouldn't be in college.

My position is that all students, who vote in the district of their college and are not legally established residents of that district are committing voter fraud. You can't legally register to vote in more than one district, nor vote in more than one district. Students who do not create legal residency in the school district, are still legal residents of their home district. This not only applies to out-of-state students, but students who go in-state to a college in a different voting district.

In North Cackalacky, my state of legal residence, for college students to receive in-state tuition they have to establish residency. This requires that they have spent 12 months uninterrupted in their legal residence. It also requires that they show they plan to stay in NC for non-educational reasons. Part of this proof is showing utility bills or tax forms. I would assume this would eliminate those using the campus as their address, because they wouldn't get any utility bills or register with the IRS at that address.

The UNC School system restricts out-of-state students to 15%, which means there could be around 40k students who are out-of-state. Even if that was split among the 16 universities, this could change the outcome of an election. But, again, this doesn't account for students who are in-state and live in a different district.

The Voter ID Amendment passed with 56% of the vote during this election. If you look at the results map, you would see something like this.

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If you look carefully at the map and knew where the 16 universities were located in the state, you would see that the universities had some sort of pull on the "No" votes.

For example:

Appalachian State University , Boone
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Elizabeth City State University , Elizabeth City
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UNC-Wilmington, Wilmington
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Even private universities seemed to have some pull on the area.

Brevard University , Brevard
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Montreat , Black Mountain
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Now, there could be some other reason that the demographics other those ares would go against the polling that suggest 70% approval for voter ID in North Carolina. What would be the reason that they wouldn't want voter ID?

In 2012, 2.4 percent of the same-day registrations failed the mail verification test, compared with 0.34 percent of regular registrations that were rejected. As pointed out by a Democracy NC representative, who wants to ignore the issue, he says that students often use same day registration and that voters under 25 were 31 percent of same-day registrants.
~ source: https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/politics-government/article98902897.html

Anyway, just because voter ID has passed, doesn't mean that college students would prevented from fraudulently registering to vote, because of Symm v. United States, asking someone to prove that they are a valid resident of a district is racists or something.

However, Crawford v. Marion upheld the Indiana Voter ID law based on it was needed in order to protect against fraud and keep the integrity of the elections.

I think, that if a student has to prove they are a legal resident in order to receive subsidized tuition through state tax payers, they also should prov they are a legal resident in order to vote for possibly more taxes to subsidize those schools.

As for not finding voter fraud, they do find it, but they aren't looking for it. Voter registrations are not purged and until there is an actual check on photo ID and addresses, no body is checking to see if the registered person is valid until after the election is over.


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voter fraud very much exists. The democrats stold about forty seats this last election.
When the election is close, somehow, mysteriously, new ballots appear...for the democrat.
It's always for the benifit of the democrat. Have they EVER won an honest election?

I don't think so.

Every elected democrat is there due to voter fraud of some kind.

democrats..the illegitimate party.

I find this debate interesting...
in a that was a sooo 1900s problem.

How do T.H.E.Y. expect to chip everyone, or have a universal identity card if they can't even get photo IDs to everyone?

We, here, speaking on the block-chain already see hundreds of better ways to handle voter identification, voter registration and vote counting. The only problem is that most of these methods can't be gamed.

That we have a near even race between democrons and republicrats is enough to convince me of voting fraud. That it is so evenly split is a statistical impossibility. However, i see an incredible machine behind it. Teams of psychologists feeding information to marketing and media conglomerates to "inform" the voters to keep the illusion of the status quo going.

I could speak of many things about fixing our broken system.
However, i would just ignore it. It is so broken as to not be fixable.

Instead, what will happen is that govern-cement will fracture, and the entire idea of electing a representative will be thrown out. We will never fix the voting problem because we will come up with better methods for the entire structure.

The interesting thing about block-chain verification for voting is that you have to put in bio-metric data. This seems funny, since a lot of what block-chain or crypto is about, is being anonymous. I would be all for it, if I knew there was a 99% guarantee that the data wouldn't be used for some other purpose.

I think about 15% of the voting populace is swayed by the media.
I think a larger amount is so stuck in their way, they'll never vote the opposite that they are told.

I think there is a small percentage that knows what they believe and understands why they believe it. These will probably be the people who will encourage the others to join sides during the next great war.

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