10 Million Russians March - Crickets in Western Media

in #politics6 years ago (edited)

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Victory Day Parades and Marches Mischaracterized/Unreported in the West

One would think the entire world would celebrate and pay tribute to those who defeated Fascist Germany. One would think that the world would be united in coming together to remember all of those that suffered, but endured to eliminate this scourge on humanity from existence. Unfortunately, no. Not only is this remembrance barely addressed in the West, it even goes as far to mischaracterize the celebrations in Russia and former Soviet Republics.

Enter NY Times' chief idiot posted in Moscow since 2005, Andrew Kramer. Clearly, Mr. Kramer has learned little, if anything, while posted in Russia about its people, customs, and most importantly, it's absolute hatred of WAR.

seniors.JPGSome of the folks Mr. Kramer wants you to fear

Yes, I know that in your daily dose of Western propaganda that is the MSM you are shown time and again about this vast Russian war machine poised to devastate Europe at a moment's notice. You are shown pictures of police officers and told they are soldiers. Russian hackers "influencing" your elections, funding the NRA, stealing your Uranium, etc, etc, etc. You hear all about the "increases in Russian military spending".

What you aren't told is that nobody and I mean nobody I have ever met in Russia has anything but disgust for war. That big budget Russian war machine is 10% of that of the U.S. or 40% of France, Germany, Italy, and GB combined. It's less than Saudi Arabia spends. When was the last time you heard the NY Times worrying over the huge amount of Saudi military spending.

For me, I'm used to this steady drip of ridiculous anti-Russia crap. One of the ways that I thought the world might see beyond this is to learn about the anti-war remembrance marches of the Immortal Regiments conducted by Russians the world over.

You see, the goal of these marches is to remember those that gave their lives and/or limbs to save their country from an evil plague that swept through Europe. To demonstrate that these heroes will not be forgotten, to educate their young people on the seriousness of this history while making it an enjoyable enterprise that binds their countrymen together. It also sends a clear message to anyone with designs on Russia and its copious flow of resources - It says, we lost 30+ million people and we're still here. We kicked the Nazi's asses when everyone else laid down (or joined them). We put up with Stalin, Socialism, the economic disaster of the 90's and we're STILL here. We will bloody your nose and our grandmothers will kick your ass back to where you came from so leave us alone.

So, in comes Mr. Kramer with his supposed report on the over 1 million people that marched in the Immortal Regiment in Moscow. Somehow, he not only misses the point of the marches, but he can't even get simple facts straight. From the article -

The marchers in Moscow, gripping their portraits and walking slowly, sang “Katyusha,” or the Little Katya, a wartime song about a truck-mounted rocket launcher that was instrumental in victory. - New York Times - Andrew Kramer

"Katyusha" is a love song written during the war that became extremely popular. It is about a girl, "Katya" waiting for her love to return from the Front. "Katyusha" is an endearing form of the name, which actually comes from the full name, Ekaterina. All this is pretty common knowledge to even the most junior students of Russian history, language or culture. The name was given to the rocket launcher AFTER the song became so popular.

greatshot7katyusha.JPG Group of Marchers Singing Katyusha on Victory Day

Mr. Kramer goes on to lament the emergence of Soviet era symbols in the marches as if he thinks everyone should forget it WAS the Soviet Union. He also goes on to claim that images of Stalin are prevalent. There may be some of those, but I couldn't find a single one in 1 hour of video footage and photos. I found many of Jesus though - perhaps Mr. Kramer is confused.

This is why nobody can expect or trust the mainstream media to report honestly. Mr. Kramer has been in Moscow since 2005 as a reporter. There is absolutely no way that he actually thought this song was about a rocket launcher if he had asked a single Russian. Therefore, he either didn't ask because he is a shitty reporter (this is the case anyways) or he is misleading his readers intentionally and is a shitty reporter.

If you read his other "hit" pieces, you'll quickly realize, like I did, that Mr. Kramer has an axe to grind either because of some personal animosity or because his bosses tell him how to report it. In any event, the 4th Branch of the people's government continues to fail us in the U.S.

It is a shame that many Westerners don't realize that the Russian people are not much different than other Europeans and Americans. They all want better lives for their children, nicer homes, and maybe a nicer car. They love their families and take great pride in the accomplishments of their ancestors especially those that stood in the face of fascism.

In America, we call this Patriotism, but when Russians do it, we call them Warmongers.

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I remember meeting a group of Russian students in New York City many years ago. I was flabbergasted at how different they were to what I expected. And embarrassed at how funny they found my questions regarding Russia. My questions were shaped by a perception of the Red War Machine single-mindedly focussed on world domination ala Hollywood.

I enjoy seeing this land and its people through your eyes. And I am quietly grateful that I do not know Kramer and am not related to any Kramer. 😋

Thank you @energyaddict22

You and me both. I only wish he would come to St. Petersburg and I could run into him somewhere. However, I'm sure he keeps his mouth shut in public with his ideas. It could cost him some teeth. lol

I find the people to be mostly like any people anywhere. They have their own superstitions and habits that I find interesting at times and extremely frustrating at others, but for the most part they are just like the people I grew up with in San Diego (only I think they speak better English here).

Interesting fact is that Hollywood sells Russian a false set of goods about America also, which is why so many return after a couple years.

Talk to you soon. Time for sleep.

Some of us in the United States realize that Patriots are war mongers. Or sometimes, just really confused people who don’t understand their history.

I don't think patriotism needs to have anything to do with War. Can't the Swiss be patriotic? They haven't fought a war in a couple centuries. I think the key to patriotism is the idea that people of a shared history and identity should put that shared identity first when confronted with outside hostility. I will bad mouth my country all day long with other Americans, but I won't stand by and let others do it. I think that mentality holds true for most folks in the world.

Thanks again for stopping by and commenting. Good to see you.

I was being very centric with that comment, thinking of Patriotism from my perspective of growing up here in the United States. I guess I am a product of my society.

Patriotism here is awkward and difficult to get behind for me. People get angry over football players taking knees for the flag (which is not a disrespectful, if you look up flag ettiquette), but are ok with wearing flip flops and bathing suits with american flags on them (which, according to flag etiquette is extremely disrespectful).

This is a wonderful post for me. I live in an area with a lot of Russian immigrants and for the most part, they are good, hardworking people that are trying to live a good life and raise a healthy family.

There is another contingent that seems to be involved in drug dealing and other types of organized crime.

I would say that it's 90% good and 10% bad.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but those are pretty good numbers in my book.

My friend Arsen told me about living as a boy in Russia in the 80's. It sounded to me like a third-world country. Killing stray dogs to sell the fat to prisoners as a TB cure, making hats out of the fur and selling the meat to get a bit of money for the family.

He was nine years old and I believe they are Mennonite or Amish of some denomination. They now have a pretty big colony with all of the children now having their own families and I have never heard a non-peaceful word from any of them.

I can't imagine being a child and having to kill neighbourhood dogs to be able to eat and keep warm.

The other 10% seem to be fine with violence and corruption.

I hope that the rest of Russia holds the same ratios.

I'm not sure who enjoyed your comment more, me or my wife. She was laughing about the dog thing and the TB problem for prisoners. Both were true although eating the dogs was less important than the fur and fat. TB may still be an issue in the prisons.

However, the things she liked most was the 10% bad eggs. I would say that it is less than 10% here, but that is mostly because here those young men wouldn't be struggling to make a name for themselves as much as they are in the U.S.

Also, (this whole comment is pure gold) we had just watched a Ukrainian television show where doctors were trying to visit a Mennonite community, but nobody would even speak to them for most of the show. For my wife, your comments were great and for me it took me back to my days near Lancaster, PA.

Great stuff. Thanks for commenting.

Спасибо большое за ваш просветительный пост для многих участников стимита, кто практически меняет свое мнение о России. Исторически сложилось, что основной причиной любых войны был захват территорий. Всем людям в мире надо понять, что Россия ни на кого не собирается нападать и ни с кем не собирается воевать, так как у нее огромные территории. Шведы, Наполеон и Гитлер хотели захватить территории России, но ни разу не смогли победить Россию.

Да очень верно. Каждый раз, когда они пытаются разделить русских, люди объединяются вместе. Мой хороший друг всегда говорит: «Я могу говорить плохо о своей стране, но вы не можете». Мне нравится это высказывание, потому что это так верно для каждой страны.

Да-да, именно так мы и говорим. Я также говорю иногда моему мужу, потому что он вырос в условиях европейской идеологии, когда после войны все годы о России говорят как об агрессоре.

A thoughtful piece. An angry piece. A defensive piece. The value of alternative news sources, whether they be Steemit, Reddit, or Mother Jones, is that these are alternatives. To accept at face value anything we read is to become tools of someone's agenda. This is true in any country, at any time. Skepticism is the only filter through which we should receive information. I'm well aware of Russia's--the Soviet Union's--loss in WWII. Whatever the national banner, it's the same people who died, in numbers we cannot grasp in the US. Without the Eastern Front, without Soviet forces, Nazis could well have prevailed in 1945.

The one thing you say in your article that I accept without question, without skepticism, is that we all want the same things. If we remembered this when the drumbeats of war begin to sound, all of us might find it more difficult to pick up guns and join in the battle.

I wish you good day, and always have respect for the Russian people and the battle they waged in WWII.

Thanks for your very thoughtful comment. I agree wholeheartedly with the how we need to react when the drumbeats start sounding.

I was a bit angry and defensive. I was about to write a completely different post and was looking for drone footage online of the march when I came upon the NYT piece. After nearly vomiting, I changed the focus of my post. Today, I will write the more heartwarming story of how children viewed the march in St. Petersburg. Their answers are touching in their innocence. Talk to you soon.

I cancelled my subscription to the Times last year.

Yes, focus on the children, and the history of the moment. Celebrate the people. I'll look for that piece.

And Peace to all of us.

the western allies let Russia carry the weight of war, the long-awaited western front arrived quite late

In my opinion, the Nazis were going to lose anyway. They were never going to match Russia and the USA in the manufacture of tanks and aircraft

I don't think anybody held back. It was a two-front campaign for the Western Allies, with the Japanese holding on in the Pacific, fighting for every inch of territory. Which is why Russia was so essential to victory. With Russia's entry into the war, Germany now had two fronts to battle. As you rightly explain, from that moment, the war was lost for Germany.

I agree here. The Japanese owe their defeat to the U.S. for the most part. This is especially true because of the industrial might of American industries. The same can be said of the Russians. Huge amounts of manufactured goods and human capital.

However, the Allies did delay on a 2nd Front in Europe. It can be debated why, but the strategy was much different than in the Pacific where the U.S. "hopped" Japanese occupied islands to cut them off. Whereas, an invasion of France instead of North Africa and Italy from the beginning would have placed a much bigger burden on the Germans.

It seems to many that GB and the U.S. were more interested in controlling the Mediterranean than opening a 2nd Front. The motives behind this will always be questioned, but most importantly the perception of the Soviet leaders was that GB and the U.S. were hanging them out to dry.

I don't know, of course. There will always be revisions and re-revisions of history. I find the truth of the past, especially the truth about motive, to be elusive. The war was an all-out effort, on all sides. We forget sometimes that this wasn't a war over pieces of territory, but for existential survival. The war shaped the modern world. It redrew maps and shifted global power. I'm sure, as millions died in the Soviet Union, the Allied concentration elsewhere must have seemed wrong--but I couldn't begin to comment on the strategy, from the Allied perspective.

He also goes on to claim that images of Stalin are prevalent. There may be some of those, but I couldn't find a single one in 1 hour of video footage and photos. I found many of Jesus though - perhaps Mr. Kramer is confused.

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I think you make a great point about the 4th branch of government in this one, and I appreciate having the "confusion" of an inept (?) reporter corrected like this to show the obvious bias. I wonder whether he's been instructed to paint things in a certain light, or as you speculate, does he just have an axe to grind personally? I honestly think it's the former.

These posts are a wonderful reminder to separate feelings about any particular country's government policies from its people. We're all very much the same, the world over, and Steemit has been a great way to see that firsthand :)

You are so correct as usual. The people are mostly the same the world over and they are not being portrayed that way, which is what our media was given such freedoms for in the first place. Unfortunately, they are worse in my opinion than our inept leaders. Yes, I hold Mr. Kramer to a higher standard than Obama or Trump - he is given protections specifically to tell us the truth.

Thanks my friend...where do you see things in general headed! (latest mkt. just up! your take?)

Price of oil will be going up like we discussed. Issues with Iran with push them a little bit further, but not much. My fingers are crossed for a 10k breakthrough on BTC so it will take some of the Alt coins with it. I'm keeping 75% of my cash in Rubles though. Oil and gas - I know. Currency and financial markets are in your wheelhouse.

very much appreciate your "take"..thanks again..I am particularly (as you know) very bullish on sil. and gld.

I want to see "sentiment improve " on BTC. that seems to be the "fly in the ointment" at present.

Oh, it's really unfortunate to read this but in my opinion the whole world is under control of the influence of politics and i believe that in ancient days or in past we had leaders but unfortunately now everywhere we can find only political rulers who are trying to suppress the lives of common people. Thanks for highlighting this aspect and wishing you an great day. Stay blessed.

Very good point. A friend of mine is always saying that the only real "movement" is one that is designed to eliminate those that rule over us. Of course, I like to point out that once they are gone someone will take their place.
Talk to you again soon.

Thank you. 🙂

People have been indoctrinated, unfortunately. Nobody questions journalists since we're told from a young age that their job is to report the facts. We shall never doubt the newspapers. 😛

Спасибо за эта статья!

Thanks for stopping by and commenting. Yes, this is very true and unfortunate.

The Media, where would we all get our knowledge about the events in the world from without the "unbiased" media

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