RE: Let’s Make Some STEEM Marketing Memes!! - Social Media Campaign
Okay... I don't know what you are implying here. I'm not so far "above" if you mean big people on here. I'm only 5 levels above you and we have relatively similar steem power. I'm not a big person on here. I also don't know OP either and haven't had much communication with them so this isn't something like sticking with friends either.
You also seem to be implying that both me and Justineh believe what we believe about humour because of money. That's not true, at least for me - I can't speak for OP but I can't see anything wrong logically with them just liking it so I have no reason not to believe them.
I'm on multiple platforms but my other main platform than Steemit is YouTube. If my sense of humour or attitude towards humour was affected by money, my content and my humour would be very clean because that's more ad friendly for YouTube. I only make content I want to make even if it is a poor decision financially not to sacrifice artistic integrity to meet the demands of YouTube etc and my sense of humour is intrinsically part of me and doesn't change because of money.
I just don't find the meme offensive and the reason I commented to begin with is because I don't find it offensive and I would think (at least hope) that most women wouldn't be offended the meme. Only reason I commented to begin with. Nothing to do with money or social media politics (I hate politics like that anyway and don't play the game).
For the second comment, I commented because you said the only separation exists in a man's mind and I'm part of the vagina club so that statement is factually incorrect and also ignores the experience of women like me. I also commented because it is logically wrong, proven by mine and OP's existence. It also ignores the experiences of people who do separate humour from the rest of life, because we do exist. I also really don't like this type of logic and think it is slightly insulting. A close relative went through domestic violence and if someone tried to equate a meme as being no different to what she went through I would be pissed off, because there is a huge difference between experiencing Domestic Violence and a joke (which is what a meme is). The difference is huge. There's no way I could equate a stock photo on the internet turned into a meme with sexual harassment, just like I couldn't with DV, because one is terrible and one is a joke. Equating the joke with the terrible thing is watering down the terrible thing.
As for posting the meme elsewhere, fair enough and it is good you decided to test your hypothesis, but I've seen that meme posted way more times than that on various social media websites and people typically didn't respond in a negative way, so your test is up against all those other times it has been posted and your test isn't a big enough sample size compared to how much it has been posted to mean much unfortunately.
The way your particular test went too also depended on variables such as which social media site (big differences in social attitudes, behaviors and norms between them), which sub-part of the social media site if applicable (facebook group, subreddit etc) and which business you used, as even though the meme is imo harmless, it would still be inappropriate marketing for some businesses. Context matters. It's decent for a social media site though. It's interesting you got the results you got, but it is up against every other time that meme has been posted in various forms on the internet.
Either way, like I said before, we can disagree on whether it is offensive or not. You're free to find it offensive. You do you. I do not find it offensive however, and I'm gonna stay like that (and me do me I guess... that phrase doesn't work the other way). It's more that you're saying women as a whole will be offended and equating a meme to sexual harassment, as well as saying stuff that isn't factually correct.
Either way, have fun and enjoy your time on Steem. Maybe instead of getting too in-depth about one meme, we should make our own memes... with blackjack and hookers... actually you know what, forget the memes (had to do it, Futurama was awesome). Seriously though, this energy is better spent blowing people out of the water with something awesome that we each make, meme or not. I'm not cutting you off if you still want to discuss this, but just making a suggestion. Good luck!
Actually I googled for that meme and found most people took it and posted (re-memed) it in the negative light that it really is. When I mention abuse my take is that if a woman feels compelled to stay with a man who'd publicly shame her what else is she putting up with behind the scenes. As far as my little experiment went I fully intended to share the thoughts of those who decided to participate, the consensus among those who choose to overwhelmingly, regardless if man or woman, felt it a bad decision if this was a business decision. That's how I laid it out, I didn't put Steem's name on it, I just merely asked the question, why? because this site is always asking for people's opinions then continues on without regard to what anyone said. I guess you could say there's a time and place for everything but when you are trying to attract people or change people's perceptions you don't go for something that is questionable in how people will take to it. In that regard, this meme's time and place is not now.
For those interested in the sampling of those who replied/voted on my question, post on the subject you can go here and take a look:
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-whatswrongwithpeople/hypothetical_question_would_you_as_the_owner_of_a_company_use_this_meme_to_attract_new_customers/
Okay fair enough.
It is still a small sample size compared to the number of people who have shared that and a google search for me nets results of listicles of funny uses of the meme and articles discussing the conception of the meme, so our google results differ as does my experience seeing it online, plus you got the opinion of the people on whether it should be used as an ad as opposed to posting it as a meme to the potential audience who may or may not be offended, so I still don't feel that means much as what people think is a good idea or not, doesn't necessarily correlate with how the audience it was aimed at feels about it. Anyway though, I wasn't debating if it was a good idea - I was debating your idea that the potential audience on other social media sites would find it offensive.
As for "a man who'd publicly shame her", no one was publicly shamed in the making of this meme. The original picture is a stock photo and the people in it are models. No one was publicly shamed to make this meme. And it is downright wrong to act like a meme is in the same league as abuse.
Again though, we can agree to disagree on whether this meme is offensive. You just really should stop accusing people of basing their humour and opinions on money and of being a different sex than what they are.