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RE: Whenever I Log In The Worth Of My Steemit Vote Is Smaller

in #steem5 years ago

The people are simple.

If they see, a photo of a capuccino, few row of stupid bullshit, and 200 usd is not enough for the trending page (and more 200 usd income), but you have to work for the votes, they just skip.

No people, no traffic, no price.

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Yes, that's the consequence - people/members are massively leaving the Steemit, but that's not the cause.
By bots, inside some circle-jerk fan club or else upvoted BS posts that reach $200 or even more (what wasn't and still is not the rare case), is just one of the "spicy ingredient" that made the whole thing even more "indigestible." But, in my opinion, it's not the foundation of the problem.

Dont underestimate the human greed. Sad, but that is stronger than we think. What we talking about is the reason and consequence same time. The people want easy money, as the others, and they want it quick.

There is not so much blogger, i mean, in 90%, not the blogging is the primary goal. Earn crypto is the primary, and if they can share posts, okay, then they doing it.

If they cant earn, why doing blogs? I think, this is the main reason.

I absolutely agree with you, and I surely don't underestimate the human greed. I tasted it in many ways and through way too many aspects in my life. If it's not that ugly as it is, it would be even amazing how powerful it is.

But I'm not talking about the masses here. Masses are always, more or less, stupid and somewhat easy to control especially if they are driven only or at least mostly by some primitive urges. (What in most cases they are.)

What I'm talking about here is the solid (or not so solid) ground - basic fundamentals on which something is built, and as well about those who lead and are also in power to make some changes.

In my country, we have an expression that says that "fish always smells from its head." Meaning if the leaders are screwed the whole project is screwed too. It may run for some time but sooner or later it would fall through.

In that sense, if something is built the right way and the rules are clearly set, the masses would follow.

OK - there are always those that would try to trick the system, but if the rules are clearly set the consequences will be known in advance too. So, each individual will be able to choose if it's going to play by the rules or risk to be penalized. That's how healthy projects work.

Unintentional mistakes are also always possible, but that's why the appeals stand for, and if the repetition doesn't occur the penalty can be removed or if it does occur the penalty can be enlarged.

The problem that I see here, and which I truly don't understand, is when creators and those in power to make some changes are leading the project downward in such a way that would hurt them the most, in fact.

Being so arrogantly vain to so stupidly and stubbornly persist on cutting the branch on which they are sitting (the most), is far beyond my understanding even if someone is that blindly and completely driven by greed in its full power.

The thing is that we are still somewhat and somehow floating on the surface, but we are every day closer to the point when there wouldn't be a chance anymore to turn the wheel and go back. Unfortunately, they don't see it.

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Ahm, okay, i understand it, and you are right.

But actually, there is a small misunderstanding, about this whole blockchain and platform.

The steemit is just a "mining" platform.
The steem blockchain is an almost instant (3 sec block-time), fee-less money-system, and for us, as contributor, give an opportunity to increase our stake (for the mining method, what is the delegated proof of stake) with community activity, aka blogging. So dont need money invest, dont need mining-computers, just need the participating, and we can be a part of mining reward distribution.

They are, with the biggest SP, they are the biggest miners. They risk their own money, to stake here. And the stakeholders want the profit. This is the reason, why mine somebody. For money.
And its pretty clear, who risk more, there is a bigger influence on the reward distribution. This is the reason, why it is no problem with the selfvote, for example. Because the bigger stake deserve the bigger reward. At least, this is my opinion, even if my stake is almost nothing :)

lol 😂 Well, I don't know why but I have a feeling, and can't get rid of it that although we somehow understand each other perfectly, we are still talking about two different things.

All you have said about the platform and its function is correct. There is also a few other things that should be taken into consideration, and because of which I can't entirely agree with you.

  • There are many high stake members (whales) who are not active on the blockchain by any means. (Excluding some witnesses accounts among them.) Meaning, they are not mining and accordingly not actively contributing despite their large stakes. So, although among the biggest accounts they are not the biggest miners! Even, worse the power they hold is wasted for the community.
  • Further more, no matter how big or small someone's account is, any of us wouldn't be able to perform any ("mining") activity (post, vote, comment, etc.), if there are not witnesses who are in fact true miners (so to speak).

And I don't have anything against that the bigger stake holders deserve bigger reward, but I don't see how this platform would grow if they share it only or at least mostly just among themselves!?!

Above all of that there are many other issues, including commercial online publishing (that is performed here through paid/earning blogging) and which is not properly regulated on the platform, and what might become serious and extremely expensive trouble for the Steemit Inc. company, especially if and when the platform reaches critical mass of daily active users.

Severe investors (or even just traders) know that, and there is no chance they would put a single penny in here until this is not going to be regulated, simply because they know when that day (when the critical amount of daily active users is going to be reached), the "sharks" out there who are waiting for that would arrive to charge their bills.

Whatever way out the company would choose, they wouldn't be able to stop neither the big price fall of the Steem nor the masses over a sudden deserting the platform.

Current settings attract spammers, scammers and get-rich-quick scheme hunters. The leaders are purposely closing their eyes to that and silently allowing it, as many such users are capable to mobilize and bring many same or similar new members, what is their primary goal (to enlarge the "popularity" of the platform through bigger number of users). But they are forgetting that those members are exact ones who would kill it at the end.

However the existing problems are way more complex than they appear to be, and I could write a whole book about it.

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Yep, you right, we talk about two things :D Sorry, my english is really weak, but now, i see the point, what you say.

And we agree. I think, handle these issues is very simple. I know, do you know the selfvote rule on whaleshares. 3x cost, 1/3 effect. Just a few line of code, and it can works here too. So why not?

And the bots. Maybe it is funny, to hear this from me, because i have a small delegation to a bot, but with a simple captcha can stop the whole automated thing. Yep, it can block the steemauto too, so maybe not the best solution, but definitely a solution, what can work.

And the ultimate engaging: the steemit inc have almost one million steem, so one million steem power.

So why not make an sp-delegation lottery? Each month, they can delegate 10k sp for 100 randomly chosen steemian.
If her/he is active, is good, instant happiness. If not, no problem, when the month is over, the sp go back to the company, and that sp didnt make any effect to the reward pool.
And each month have 100 more extrahappy people on steemit, and real engagement.
Or simple make a referral program.

So yes, they can evolve the system. Just dunno, why not.

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