Testing the closing of gaps in distribution

in #steem5 years ago

Just for ease of calculation, I am going to round the numbers a lot.

311M Steem supply / 47K Steem held = 0.015%

14M PAL / 2600 PAL supply held = 0.018%

This means I own ~18% more of the PAL token supply than I do of the Steem supply. That is kind of interesting isn't it?

I am not sure how much of the 14M come from the airdrops claimed but with the max dropped being 2500 and claimants having to have been active in the last 2 months, I can't imagine that it adds up to 14M in the supply. This would mean that most of the supply has already been distributed out or, locked up into PAL accounts. This is a good thing of course as in the early days, having some large stake around the place means that it can distribute larger amounts and, stabilize the platform.

However, what this does do is level the playing board a little more between the larger and smaller staked players. For example, if a Whale with 500K Steem got 2500 PAL, An Orca with 100K Steem got 2500 PAL and me a Dolphin with 47K got about 2000 PAL, it means that at this point of the game, The Whale and the Orca are on a level peg and, a Dolphin is only about 20% behind, instead of over 50%.

What this means though is that because I have 2600, unless the whale and the orca bought some PAL, I have ~4% more ownership of the supply than they.

On a stake based platform, this is quite important and makes things very interesting as while it does give some advantage to larger accounts, it isn't that much advantage. One of the problems with Steem is that it couldn't distribute like this as at that point, it had no idea who is who. PAL has essentially used Steem as a "rough oracle" and said, the people who still have stake and the people who have still been active after all of this time get rewarded, but not that much more than the people who are here and active and have been working their way up.

If we make some more rough assumptions, we could predict that those with stake and those who have been active are likely to know more about Steem, be more invested into the Steem blockchain and therefore, be able to make a move to PAL quite seamlessly. It is a kind of hijack of the community in some way and still is an opt-in system - which sounds very familiar to some conversations had about 5 months ago.

Regardless though, this is an opportunity for a platform to have a better distribution from the get-go and allow active and somewhat "proven" users a chance to build up at the beginning of a project without having to build up from scratch. It is quite a clever way to get off to a running start and providing a 50/50 curation return mans that the larger accounts, much like now, are unlikely to post much but instead curate. Because it doesn't really matter if they curate on Steem interfaces, it means that they can go about their day as they do and still earn on their PAL stake, which means that contributors get rewarded in both Steem and PAL, as do curators except currently, they will get more PAL than Steem back.

This all makes for a complication in the game for users but it also allows for testing of conditions and the resulting behaviors. One of the benefits of decentralized environments is that there can be a lot of trial and error coupled with failures without the entire ecosystem failing. A bushfire may decimate one region, while another is getting tropical rain and lush green growth.

For me, I have very little idea about where all of these things will lead and I am quite certain there are going to be some pretty major negative discoveries along the way as, people are people and behaviors follow various patterns that are slow to change. However, there will be positive discoveries made too and if for the most part people get their ducks in a row and musketeer some of this development and put greed and ego on the back burner, some pretty great leaps can be made in the best interest of the Steem community, *and that includes all the application communities running upon it.

Maybe this is not a great opportunity to earn in the long run, I can't say. But, it is a great opportunity to learn, and those who learn the most about the environment they operate in usually do the best operating.

We are all on the same ride, how we cope with the experience is up to each of us.

Taraz
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I have 104k SP which is about 0.3 percent of total supply. On PalNet I have 2500 PAL which is a much lower percentage. So yes, Steem orcas are not as powerful on PalNet.

It will be interesting to see what happens and who actually curates because after all of the complaining, it is up to the community.

Personally I don't think people's behavior will change that much...

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PAL has essentially used Steem as a "rough oracle" and said, the people who still have stake and the people who have still been active after all of this time get rewarded, but not that much more than the people who are here and active and have been working their way up.

This is a great way to look at the new distribution. It's not just about the users having a "level" playing field to start fresh, but also creating a smarter distribution of stake, right from the start. Everyone who contributes in some way, at least for now, gets rewarded. Those who contribute through investments get something and those who contribute with activity, too.

On the flipside, with all the talk about Hardfork 21, maybe the Steem witnesses can also look at Palnet as a case study to see what lessons can be learned here, especially with the differences in rewards structure, etc.

As for whether this ends up with positive or negative path, I guess the main point is that this will end up in an entirely different path, altogether.

On the flipside, with all the talk about Hardfork 21, maybe the Steem witnesses can also look at Palnet as a case study to see what lessons can be learned here, especially with the differences in rewards structure, etc.

Yep. smoke.io also has 50/50 and while has less users, the distribution has worked well there.

As for whether this ends up with positive or negative path, I guess the main point is that this will end up in an entirely different path, altogether.

Change is needed, and likely always will be required. The benefit of decentralization is that it will continually change through usage anyway.

Mhh, I don't know how things will work out.
I am afraid that the airdrop of 30K to the moderators of minnow support will have a big influence. If you want to become big on palnet, you will need to have the support of those accounts. They can make or break you!
But it is an interesting expirement for sure with the 50/50 split.

Cheers,
Peter

Yes, it is going to be interesting with the 30ks floating about but, there are a lot of 2500s, 2000, 1000s, too. much like on Steem, the dolphins and orcas tend to be the most active in both stake amount and content activity.

Indeed the complete fishes from the steem ocean are there! Also good to have some fishes which are red fish on the one side and almost an Orca on the other!
But just like on steem it will probably don't matter how and what you write about (until a certain level) but who you do know!

Powered up my PAL, why not? :)

did you get 10M?

1250 or so. Max is 2500 from the airdrop i think, you gotta buy to whale up. Or be aggy, I presume :)

I got 950 and powered up. It will be fun to see what happens next!

Learning is still earning.

Gonna be funny if PAL coins end up being worth more than Steem, considering the current 20:1 trading ratio.

I am pretty sure that there will be a few Steem-based tokens that will be worth more over time, it doesn't really matter though in my opinion as it all adds mass. The Steem blockchain should be aiming to have a monumental amount of value riding across it - that is what it is meant for , isn't it?

I think it's hilarious that users are willing to throw thousands and thousands of dollars at @drugwars but a project like this just flash crashes into the dirt. Gambling mentality sure is strong here.

Gambling mentality sure is strong here.

But you don't get it.. they don't like risks... :D

All we can provide is an opportunity to do things differently this time. Some people saw it as an opportunity to grab more steem, others as a quick few bucks, but if enough of the people see what's really going on, then that's all that matters. :)

I think it is a good move but I also think that the Steem blockchain should underpin many such moves, and I hope that it isn't a break away as that would suck balls imo.

the only thing that is annoying me for now is that I have to log into 2 platforms to vote on the same things

Vote on one, it goes to the other (I think?)

Yes, Vote on 1 and goes to the other. Except when vote on any platform besides PAl, they must have "palnet" tag, as long as any platform has "palnet" tag they get Pal and Steem vote

thanks for that. i did not know this.

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