Hi @thabiggdogg I want to ask you a question about my contribution. nCamp is not a grill. nCamp provides approximately 10 minutes of combustion. nCamp is a camp stove. Grill and stove are different things. nCamp can not be considered as a grill. nCamp is a small and collapsible camp stove. nCamp also has a very new design. I chose this product because it is an innovative. The combustion chamber can collapse by means of innovative design and allows you to save space. nCamp stove combustion chamber is a new design. The nCamp is made of stainless steel and aluminum and the top plate reservoir does not burn. I think it should be considered Stove, not Grill. i think nCamp is an innovative engineering inventions.