I grew up with too many bullies. I don't like to see them on Steemit. @haejin is being attacked.

in #steemit6 years ago

I wonder if user accounts can be deleted. If not, I wonder if a hard fork could implement such.

Bullies Suck

My folks raised me Christian, and encouraging the "turn the other cheek" lesson meant I was a punching bag for the other schoolchildren. Later as an adult, my Mom has said several times that "turn the other cheek" was the worst mistake she's made in parenting.

Later I learned Tae Kwon Do, and wrote an accounting package for the Grand Master as well. I wonder if I still have that anywhere? It was DOS in character mode, before Windows, and I had programmed expanding and collapsing borders and sub-windows for the students and late accounts etc. Anyway, memories -- those from before the first concussion are generally intact. (He treated me to my first sushi meal! :) )

But Tae Kwon Do was after I had graduated college. Before that...

Unexpected Life Lesson

The year before I went off to a private high school, about a month before it ended, I got sick of the abuse and started fighting back. It blew my frakking mind that those who were terrorizing me, became my friends! They were short-lived friendships though, as I was elsewhere the following year.

But what a lesson! You don't make friends by being a doormat.

You make friends by demonstrating that you can help them out when they're in a bind.

 

That's not a lesson that's ever taught, at least to my knowledge -- that "fighting on the playground" makes friends, and it's because you show that you will be able to assist them. That's so weird to me, but, it's what I experienced! (I didn't innerstand the "help them out" part until more recently.)

Violence as children is normal; and, being able to defend against it -- and, not initiate it -- should be taught by parents. And, to sometimes initiate it playfully, because play-fighting is a form of exercise, and experience, and bonding.

Call to Action

@haejin is a loving, wonderful man who is sharing his accumulated knowledge with us at no cost to himself. He has been upvoted by some whales recently, and other whales have decided to attack him, saying that it's "unfair" that he's rewarded so much for his positive efforts.

I wonder whether a hard fork might be able to remove an account, perhaps by adding a directive to delete a user. And, perhaps that directive already exists -- although I did a search, and only found discussion of deleting posts and comments.

So, I wonder if user accounts can be deleted, and if they can't, whether this could be added to stop abuse. It could even include modifying the deleted account's home page, adding fields to retrieve the value from it somehow -- don't want to steal from anybody.

I know exchanges have difficulty with STEEM (or at least, Poloniex does) so sending it might not work well, but it could integrate with e.g. blocktrades.us or Changelly or ShapeShift (or all three!), so they could extract it in Bitcoin or any other supported coin.

Would a petition for this make sense? And who would it be to -- @dan and @ned make good sense; is there a "Steemit Board of Directors" or something? @steemcleaners? Others? If you think this is a good idea, or a terrible idea, or is ripe for abuse itself, etc. -- let me know. I'll take this ball and run with it if it makes sense.

Thanks.




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what is the problem with the others who are attacking the friend @haejin he is doing great work on posting . he is not spamming i think

Some angry whale thinks that our decision to upvote isn't correct.

So he's trying to "correct the record", because he's broken-in-the-head.

most of people's rewards come from whales, he is just correcting the work of a small group of people. You don't have any real affect lmao

You don't have any real affect lmao

Really?

Well we are in favor on out friend success i donot like flaging him also :)

@libertyteeth maybe that brother who upvote was not active and he has good power thats why they might got angry hahaha

When I discovered Steemit.com I though that this technology is great to make sure that some anti-democratic regime cannot shut critical voices up. It is sad that such a discussion can actually come up on this plattform - and it will be interesting to see where this goes.

"anti-democratic regime "
capitalism and democracy are incompatible

Just as incompatible as socialism and free will then ?

wrong, to quote the first self-proclaimed anarchist "property is theft".

the ussr was more democratic than the usa

Actually that is the most easiest here because of stack. If you have higher stack, you can shut people up. Clear and simple.

Do you think the devil will be lazy to go to church? lol

I guess not. But let's hope that these fights are just infancy problems, which turn out to be alright once the platform has grown up...

First the devil tried to persecute, censor and kill Gods people. ( the Roman empire)
The blood of the martyrs made more people to follow the living God. (he have all power)

Then the devil change strategy, insted of fighting the church, he joined them...

This resulted in a fallen church, like the Roman catholic church. (they persecuted and killed Gods people during the dark medieval times)

In all situations we have the battle between good and evil.

In Haejins case we have a strong weapon, if you follow @haejin you make money in trading cryptos, then do a long term investment in steem(witch benefits this community). Use your steem to powerup your account.

Voila! We have powerfull votes that we can upvote @haejin

I believe you deserve nothing more than a downvote if you think the trending page should look like this:

I don't think any person "deserves a downvote" because of the way steemit's trending algorithm was designed. If you want to see more variety on the trending page, work to fix the algorithm rather than punishing the content creators.

Maybe you should try to read and understand why these posts are really useful.

The post are useful, still don't deserve to get all the reward pool for 1 person... Its a flaw on the system and should be somehow fixed... Just an opinion, i am not a hater or anything...

Ok you have to understand that Haejin has 13,000 Twitter followers. He is bringing A MASSIVE amount of people to Steemit! Which in turn is going to grow this website. The more people that join, the more voting that can happen. Anyone with half a brain would realize that is good for ALL Steemit members! Think about that for a minute.... If Haejin gets half of his followers on Twitter to join Steemit then that's 6,500 new Steemit members, that increase the traffic and the votes. Everyone on this platform can benefit from it. Now the people bashing him really need to understand That! It's not rocket science...... His popularity helps us all, but the JACKASSES that BASH him won't gain from it at all! Reason being is if a member joins for a specific person, why would they want to UPVOTE or help anyone that bashes the person and reason why they joined.... It's not smart to attack the person who is the most loved on this site, not smart in any way. This is all common sense. Just a lot of people don't have it!

same story here, raised a pacifist got bullied hated school. until eight years ago you could have emptied my house and i would prayed for you. still not fighter so I bought guns. Too old for fisty cuffs. any how only free metal at my house is lead. thanks for all you do @libertyteeth. PS @fishyculture got her cryptokitties in time for christmas!

Thank you so much. I'm really hurting today, with the attacks last night from a witness who I stopped voting for based on his attack post directed at @haejin. Was I wrong in interpreting his post the way I did? (I have been wrong before, here.) His behavior in response seems to confirm my reaction though -- he trolled through my Wallet and then posted screencaps of transactions, accusing me of "begging". What are your thoughts?

Appreciate the kind words and similar story. Give her a hug for me! Merry Christmas! :)

Politicians and movie stars are there to "satirized and have a laugh on". I thought here on steemit we were better than that to each other!! I can not imagine any reason I would post a transcript of someone elses wallet. I did look, It did not seem like begging to me. I have always found you to be a giver and contributer, not a taker or a begger. I am sorry about what you are going through. It is over my head, but you should know we have always appreciated you. Keep up the great work.

Thanks, really appreciate the kind words.

Apparently, many others felt the same as you after my post yesterday; here are the results (so far!):

Lets hope it stays that way.

Hugs delivered!

Upvoted cheers keeping leaving links in haejin and ill upvote you😃👍

I don't like bullies and could never understand how mean kids and adults can be.
But I guess studying the Word of God really has helped me a lot and I guess from my understanding, bullies are the people who are hurting the most. We don't know their life stories and really they are the ones who do need our help and our love since love conquers all.
I enjoyed your post and I want to thank you for sharing with us what is going on in this community and it really makes me sad to see people treating people like that.
I think I know which whale you are talking about and I try to stay away as far as I can because I've seen his works.

Is there anyway you can upvote both my post rightbunder yours. One of them is a screenshot to celebrate Haejin reaching 12k on Twitter and I'd love liberty teeth to see it. Only reason I'm blocked is because I've been. Helping stop Bernie Sanders and his gang of misfits.

Bernie is using his randowhale account to bring in money to power his main account. He is scamming the whole system by controlling all of these accounts. Expose him for what he is. He is the one raping the reward pool with multiple accounts. It’s time that this changes.

I was reading the first post and happened to refresh it and then it was gone! Glad to see you are standing your ground and redid the post! Thanks for fighting the fight @libertyteeth !

Thanks for noticing. Seriously, it helps my state of mind. Take care!

Bullies will pay the price for what they have sown. Even James Dobson had to rewrite /revised his earlier book years later regarding them. James used to think those tough kids would be also tough to fight failures and challenges later in their life. James observation showed the opposite. James said in his later book that they failed 100%.

Very interesting! Thanks. I've much later in life met some of those bullies, and you're right, they're pretty much failures. Karma and such, but really I feel sad for them because they were abused at home, which I didn't know anything about as a child.

Hmm I see your point and actually I don't know whats "really" going on here, but I heard he is abusing the steem pool together with a whale... If this is true, it is not so good. But however, maybe he gives a bit of his mones to a transparent and good charity project :-)

@haejin cannot "abuse the Steemit reward pool"; he's just posting his observations on possible future coin movements, based on requests from his followers. Perhaps he posts a lot. His followers request a lot of analysis.

A whale recently noticed him and started upvoting. This doesn't seem like abuse. I haven't researched that whale to see whether there was communication between that account and @haejin's account, to see if there was collusion. Perhaps there was.

This angry whale has attacked me in the past without provocation, so I automatically don't align with his side. And, I've been watching @haejin's videos and spoke to him last weekend -- he seems genuine, trying to help people.

He was rewarded for helping people, by a whale. Another whale said "this is unfair" and decided to start attacking.

Perhaps I'll share my story about this jerk. He attacked me, months ago, with no provocation.

https://steemit.com/berniesanders/@uknowjpbitcoin/when-berniesanders-pisses-you-off-here-is-a-list-of-all-14-of-his-accounts-just-go-and-flag-all-his-post-so-he-looses-a-ton-of

*****PUBLIC STEEMIT SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT I HAVE NOW TRACKED DOWN A TOTAL OF 15 ROBOT ACCOUNTS THAT @BERNIESANDERS OWNS AND HAVE UPDATED THE LIST ACCORDINGLY - PLEASE FLAG ALL OF HIS FRAUDULENT POST. I HAVE CONTACTED STEEMIT CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND SENT PHOTOGRAPHS OF HIS ROBOT ACCOUNTS SELLING VOTES. PLEASE UPVOTE MY ACCOUNT SO I CAN CONTINUE TO TRACK ALL HIS ROBOT ACCOUNTS TO HAVE THEM REMOVED. ALSO YOU MAY WANT TO CONTACT STEEMIT AND REPORT HIM AND HIS ACCOUNTS AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF [email protected] ***** (@BERNIESADERS @RANDOWHALE ACCOUNT IS SELLING VOTES AT HALF PRICE - I THINK HE KNOWS HIS GIG IS ABOUT TO BE UP)

I tried reporting the URLs of Bernie's calls-to-arms against @haejin to steemcleaners' report page, and it gave an error that they had already been reported!

I don't think it should be an error for more than one person to mention it. After all, the more complaints they get about a post, the higher it should be prioritized.

Anyway, I also got attacked but since I'm more of a "dolphin" he had to use more of his dry powder. Now I have a list of 60 of his bots, all of which attacked at 100%, and did less than $19 worth of damage.

(I'm pretty sure you've seen this already; I wrote the above and am copying the link in case others haven't.)

https://steemit.com/steemit/@libertyteeth/fishing-for-berniesanders-accounts-found-60-of-them-pray-for-him-pray-those-demons-out

To you mean BernieSanders?

Hmm ok thanks for sharing the other side of the coin!

Happy Holidays Libertyteeth!

To you as well!

thank you dear @libertyteeth because you payed our attention to a very serious problem

https://steemit.com/berniesanders/@uknowjpbitcoin/when-berniesanders-pisses-you-off-here-is-a-list-of-all-14-of-his-accounts-just-go-and-flag-all-his-post-so-he-looses-a-ton-of

*****PUBLIC STEEMIT SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT I HAVE NOW TRACKED DOWN A TOTAL OF 15 ROBOT ACCOUNTS THAT @BERNIESANDERS OWNS AND HAVE UPDATED THE LIST ACCORDINGLY - PLEASE FLAG ALL OF HIS FRAUDULENT POST. I HAVE CONTACTED STEEMIT CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND SENT PHOTOGRAPHS OF HIS ROBOT ACCOUNTS SELLING VOTES. PLEASE UPVOTE MY ACCOUNT SO I CAN CONTINUE TO TRACK ALL HIS ROBOT ACCOUNTS TO HAVE THEM REMOVED. ALSO YOU MAY WANT TO CONTACT STEEMIT AND REPORT HIM AND HIS ACCOUNTS AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS OF [email protected] *****

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