Coffee and Philosophy: Order vs Chaos
I feel like this is one of the most heavily debated and highly conflicted topics in philosophy. Order implies that everything that happens to us over the course of our lives is planned and implemented in divine detail. It also implies that free will isn't really about choosing what we want to do, but about embracing our authentic self or living in denial. Chaos on the other hand is just that, chaos. It's the belief that nothing is ever determined, coincidence is a reality, and there is no point to anything because we have no control over anything but ourselves. Personally I embrace order as I stopped believing in coincidence a long time ago. What do you believe? Namaste.
Complex question. It's mostly that the coincidience or the order or the chaos are only humans part of coprehending reality. Maybe there is no reality, as George Berkeley once wrote:
We have first raised a dust and then complain we cannot see.
It's the Idea that moves us.
I agree that there are no coincidences and no mistakes. There's a great line from the "Kungfu Panda" movie concerning that. It can be difficult to understand why we must go through certain "lessons" like having to deal with an illness, for example. These, lessons have been put forth for our growth, for us to learn. They are not random. They are there to get us to the next level. We either learn from them or we curse what we perceive as chaos.
I know that feeling and agree completely.
I can confidently say order. Everything we experience is due to our karma. The 'bad' things that happen to us happen specifically so that we have an opportunity to grow and we have to grow to move on. That's what our lives are all about, improving ourselves so that we can merge with the ultimate reality, our eternal selves, the divine.
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I side with Heraclitus!- the O.G. Universe is Chaos Promoter. "You never step foot in the same river twice." -Heraclitus
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I have a hard time believing wholly in either idea. I certainly don't think that as I'm sitting here, all of my thoughts and actions are predetermined. However, I think there are somethings that happen in this world that are just too strange to be "coincidence". It's tough to say :)
The way I envision it is that those times we are stuck in our own head, we are unaware of the timelines and how they are moving. Deja Vu and Mandella Effects are related to our thoughts shifting our timelines. There could be an infinite number of timelines we could travel down, but going down each one is setting a chain of events that plays into all other individuals we encounter etc. Basically everything that can and will happen is always happening and always will be happening.
Interesting thoughts! Wish there was a way to know for sure that multiple universes exist
I'm also a believer in karma, which is the principle of cause and effect. Cause and effect determine our reality.
At the same time, I believe in free will. Although our decisions are heavily influenced by past experiences and habits I believe it is possible to step out of conditioned acting at any time, accessing the direct wisdom of our true self.
Interesting, seems like a hybrid of the two.
Yes, and actually there is a real conflict between the theories of relativity which is based on order and predictability and the chaos theory, based on chaos. But both of them seem to be valid! Chaos theory is valid for smallest subatomic particles and the theory of relativity addresses rather larger macroscopic bodies.
How they fit together exactly I have no idea. But in a philosophical way I think cause and effect is the realm of the conditioned self, the conditioned person and freedom from being bound by cause and effect - chaos in a positive sense - is the realm of the absence of the conditioned, false self, experiencing our true, unconditioned self.
I believe that there is an underlying unversal truth to be sought. It being chaos is merely a matter of perception, as what we don't understand still has an explanation. Order is achieved when the universe organized through the scientific method. I made a post that might be worth checking out, if you've dabbled with these thoughts before. Enjoy this with your coffee sometime soon! Upvoted and resteemed (:
https://steemit.com/redfish/@zacharius/why-the-natural-sciences-are-important-for-understanding-everything-and-anything
Oh I dabble alright...
There is no coincidence in life. Everything what happened is fine, because we wanted that. Do not make any sense thinking about it. We must open our eyes. We can not expect other people to make something. We must change our own lives
I hope you understand. :)
Namaste
Full power UV on this, but still depleted, sorry about that LOL
I think that it is a personal choice. You know what an effect has with any food or drink.
Today with the way marketing is, a lot of times a company will market something negatively to gain a part of that market for their product.
So you need to do your own research and find out about the different issues.
I like your post. Thanks for sharing.