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in #technology6 years ago

When It Works

Anyone have a Roomba, or any of the knockoff equivalents?

My son and his wife bought something called a Eufy, which is some brand of vacuum cleaner bot. It's been in the house now for three weeks or so, and contrary to what I thought before we had this one, I'm discovering I don't really like it that much.

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Image courtesy of Glen Anthony Albrethsen.

Our Eufy RoboVac, bouncing off the wall.

Now, it could be just the model. When I go shopping for any kind of technology—television, computers, game consoles, home assistants, etc.—I generally do a lot of homework first. Price is a factor—I'm not going to just throw money at the most expensive one—but it's not the only one. I rarely buy the most expensive gadget, but neither do I generally buy the cheapest. That's because I research possible features, pick the ones I like, then look for the ones that have those features, and then compare what they do. Then, I go by price and yes, I wade through some comments.

I wasn't there when the kids decided to purchase this one. I suspect they may have done some comparing, but that price was the principle consideration. As long as the reviews weren't horrible.

I wasn't consulted in the matter. It was meant to be a gift for my wife, but I think the kids like it enough that it may just end up leaving with them whenever that happens. And if that's the case, I'm fine with that.

When I went looking at the Roomba's a while back, I was looking for ones that had things like proximity sensors and programmability. A camera would be cool, but not necessary. Good battery life, low motor noise, things of that nature.

This one, does not have any of those things, except maybe a decent battery life. Now, it's not quite as loud as a regular vacuum, but you definitely know it's running. It sounds a lot like our dishwasher. It can't be programmed, but it can be driven with the provided remote. You can set a time for it to clean, too, but that's about it. When I say program, I mean have it learn the layout of each room in the house and determine how to best go about cleaning it, as efficiently and effectively as possible.

It doesn't have proximity sensors because it keeps hitting things. Walls, furniture, doors, drawers, people. It doesn't discriminate.

Of all the features it's lacking is the one that annoys me the most. It can get caught in some areas of the house where it has to bump its way out for at least a minute, if not more, because it can't see where it's going and then figure out how to get out of a corner. I watched it get wedged underneath a corner of one of the couches, where it kept turning until it finally managed to free itself.

It doesn't take a room horizontally or vertically, but diagonally. Even that is probably an oversimplification, because as it's pinballing around, it seems to knock itself off course so rather than going in any semblance of a straight line, it tends to run off to the left in a fairly flat curve until it runs into something else.

I've not messed with the thing at all other than to send it back home a couple of times. One of my later nights last week I came in (after 11 pm) and found it running around in the dark. Not that it needed any light. But I did. I couldn't figure out what the noise was until I turned on the dining room light and found the vacuum bot doing its thing in the corner of the living room.

When asked, my daughter-in-law said she had set it to start by itself at noon, but it didn't do it. Apparently, it can't even tell time.

So, bottomline. I like the idea. And if I were ever to buy one, I would do my homework and select the best of the lot for the money. I would probably find out if it's also Echo compatible, since we have one or two of those floating around the house.

I love technology, but only when it works. Otherwise, you get Tony Stark's "Dummy" robot he was constantly chiding in the first Iron Man movie. In fact, this Eufy reminds me a lot of it.

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We bought one of those some time ago but it must be at the back of cupboard somewhere @glenalbrethsen. I certainly haven't used it for years. I wonder where it is.

I think it worked OK. The novelty wore off and I forgot to use it. Although I seem to remember it needed emptying a lot. That was probably why it got dumped and, predictably. it didn't work as well as our Dyson. 😁

Yeah. I can't blame you. I think the convenience of it doing the vacuuming only exists if it actually picks up stuff, which ours has been doing for the most part, and that it can 'see' where it's going or it can be programmed to avoid obstacles and obstructions. Otherwise, it's kind of like handing your younger child a vacuum. You get the same kind of bumping into things.

The frequent need to dump what's collected is a definite negative.

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Didn't Roomba get caught mapping the insides of people's houses? This article from 2017 seems to indicate they could be selling that data.

https://gizmodo.com/roombas-next-big-step-is-selling-maps-of-your-home-to-t-1797187829

This is why we can't have nice things. Or ones that actually function well without being connected to the cloud apparently. I mean, I don't have a Roomba, but that's not at all encouraging. Why would the mapping of a room be stored anywhere but onboard the bot itself. Certainly that data wouldn't take up a bunch of space on any storage device a vacuum bot could have.

I don't know. I'll need to delve into it again and see what's up whenever we might be in the market for another one. I just find this particular make and model to be not necessarily worthless, but not much smarter than a regular vacuum, and it really should be smarter. Without spying on my house.

I like our regular vacuum cleaner. You push it around and it picks stuff up. Then you empty the bin and you're done. No worries about the bot spying on you and selling your info. ;)

Just wait. That one will wear out eventually and the new one you get will be a wifi enabled hotspot with a pandora app you can play while you vacuum, you know, so you can listen to more noise, and you'll be able to order sandwiches with it from your favorite deli. :)

Ugh, I just want a vacuum!

My 150 year old house is not designed for a robot vacuum.. lol too many random steps, I'd need at least 5 of them.

I have a Dyson V6, It weighs nothing and easy to do the whole house in less than 5 mins.

Hey, @pjau.

We have a Dyson vacuum, too. It's great. It's not too heavy, but still a conventional vacuum cleaner. It's actually the best we've ever had.

As I said, I wasn't the one who purchased it. I guess someone decided they didn't want to be constantly vacuuming up after the granddaughter, so they got this instead. Unfortunately, it ends up doing most of the bottom floor before it will actually vacuum up the mess where she was eating.

I don't know what house, after you throw in furniture, than mess it up a little, is designed for one of these things.

I've been a Dyson lifer for 11 years, can't go wrong with them :)

Honestly I think its for those fancy clinical minimalist multi million dollar home builds that are all on one level. Nothing gets in the way then. lol

howdy tonight sir Glen! it's good to know all the things you talk about to look for with one of these things, I want one but not that one that you wrote about. and the article that noname mentions sounds darn scary!

Well, I'm certainly not recommending it, unless a person likes to watch one bump into walls. It's exceptionally good at that.

Well, it figures that something like iRobot selling house mapping data would happen. In this day and age, we can do all the snooping you want on the average citizen, but you need to go through all kinds of hoops to tap bad guys.

Unless they've tapped themselves with Alexa or Roomba. Then, apparently, it's still fair game.

what, Alexa sells information too? and who is buying this information?

I'm not sure if it's selling information as far as Alexa is concerned. It could very well be. There are people concerned that it is handing over information, or could handover information to governmental departments like the FBI, NSA, CIA, etc. I haven't really investigated that much to see just what Amazon might keep on file, how much they really listen, and whether or not some agency is making daily trips to the data.

I imagine, though, if they were selling the data, it would be the same corporations who buy the Google and Facebook data to target you with ads. So, if you order anything through Alexa, that would be available I guess.

howdy sir Glen on this fine Friday! well sir, this is an insane topic is it not? who would have thought that this kind of stuff was even a possibility? I guess it shows how far we'v come! lol.

One one and only Roomba story: My friend had one because she had a big Chocolate Lab that shed like crazy, and a cat that did the same. One day she turned it on before leaving for work, and when she returned home in the evening, she was assaulted by a horrible smell and sight upon entering her front door. Her dog, was visibly shaken, and up on the sofa, because unfortunately, she (the dog) had a terrible case of diarrhea sometime during the day and the damn Roomba had spread it to every conceivable corner in the house! :)

hahaha could you imagine!!??

That would be the absolute worst. I don't think you'd want one of these with indoor pets, regardless. I don't like the idea of it running unsupervised, to a degree, but that's kind of the point. You want it to do its job. But leaving it to vacuum while you're at work and can't see what's going on—it's an unusual set of circumstances, but obviously she paid for it, anyway. I can't imagine living there until it was all cleaned up.

Just another reason to never have a pet. Or a robovac.

hahaha I'd give up the lazy man's vacuum before my pet 😅

Glen, I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing. Your writing style is brilliant!

I have a traditional vacuum cleaner and am thinking about something similar for a long time now. Thank you for telling me what to check first :D

Hey, @delishtreats.

I'm glad I could bring you some laughter from my irritation. :) Actually, I'm glad the humor came through, because mine can be pretty dry and subtle at times.

It sounds like, according to themanwithnoname, that iRobot, the maker of the Roomba, was considering at least selling off data from the housemapping it does, so there's something else to consider. I'd need to do more investigating of that myself before I did anything, because I don't want anyone having any kind of mapping data of my house unless it stored locally and that's it.

Oh, I love dry humor and found your post very funny even though it was a frustration experience for you :)

It's so ridiculous that a vacuum cleaner can collect the housemapping and that there might be a possibility that these data could be shared further. Oh man, where is this world going? :D

I'm afraid it's going the way the writers of 1984 predicted, where intentional or not, we end up in a surveillance nanny state all over the world, not just in countries where freedoms are curtailed. That might not be the intent of these companies, but if history can still be a judge, intent means nothing. If governments or entities want the data, they'll get it, and use if for whatever purposes they wish.

That's why it's best to avoid it now. If it's inevitable, it's still going to happen, but that doesn't mean we can't knock it back a few decades. :)

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