RE: Declassified Cables Show CIA Director Gina Haspel Directly Oversaw Torture
I don't understand why this is news. When you catch a terrorist you torture them in order to extract whatever information you can. Time is normally of the essence to save lives and it shouldn't matter what methods are used. Possibly the public or maybe even friends and family members could be saved by these tactics. You would complain if someone you loved or new was killed due to them not extracting the information. The biggest mistake I see is the leaking of this material. I am sure far worse things happen and people forget what type of individuals these terrorists are. They have lost all rights by joining Al-Qaida in the first place. The world has gone soft and they will take advantage of any weaknesses. I am not a hard arse but want the world to be a safer place and have no issues with what they are doing behind the scenes.
Has everyone forgotten 9/11, the beheadings, the you tube videos with the chainsaws, these are not individuals that care about others.
It's been proven time and time again that torture doesn't work. It's ineffective and doesn't provide actionable intel.
If you follow the links in this piece you'll find that the newly released cables demonstrate on a number of occasions that 'intelligence' gathered through waterboarding was already known/obtained through other non-violent means.
Movies like Zero Dark 30 and TV shows like 24 will have you believe that there's a ticking time bomb and that the ends justify the means when it comes to torture. But this is complete fiction. The same is true in real life. Torture doesn't save lives. It helps to foment hate towards the west and actually is used as a recruitment tool for terrorist organizations.
And who created Al-Queda again?
They emerged from the Mujahadeen forces in Afghanistan funded and armed by the CIA.
Then what is the answer? You can't be soft on them either as they will only take advantage and see this as a weakness.
You've missed the point of who "them" actually is. Who is "trying to take advantage" ? The Iraqi's that had nothing to do with 911 ? The Saudi, US and Israeli backed moderate headchoppers in Syria ? Who exactly are the bad guys ?
Torture is also an extremely ineffective method of extracting information from a prisoner, (and that's making the assumption that the prisoner even knows any worthwhile information) with victims confessing to anything just to make the pain stop.