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RE: Indigenous Erasure on the 4th of July: Prayer for a Common Memory
Just a little side note here on 'history'.
Vast populations of natives and settlers ended up inter marrying and even natives today intermarry at rates above or near 50%.
Often what is lost in these types of discussions is that the outrage is pointed at the very people who have and are the products of a common past.
While that is true, I’m not pointing at anyone specifically, yet encouraging us as a collective nation to acknowledge that this has taken place and to find creative ways to own and repair it.
We all share this past and I find interesting that instead of responding to what I actually said, you brought up a new topic altogether.
The term 'priviledged white' in this article shows your hand.
Either you were 'taught' in a liberal education school or grew up in a liberal population center, because most anyone outside of those typically has varying degrees of native blood and already understands common memory and shared history.
The 'collective history' part is another indication of the underlying socialist agenda.
There is a tendency to point out factions and try to foment hostility or guilt. This is not a way to repair anything.
Reservations are supposed to be sovereign. It is the nation state of the tribe. If you don't like the impoverished conditions, go to the tribe and tell them how bad a job they are doing running their own nation. Now that really would look bad wouldn't it.
As someone who has both native and 'priviledged white' blood i can say this kind of socialist non-sense needs to stop.
your entire reply is so stereotyped and based on assumptions i'm not even sure it's worth a reply because you've revealed your hand as someone who lives in assumptions and isn't willing to think critically or specifically.
from my experience:
Neither is true of me and I currently don't live in a liberal population center either
this is an audacious overstatement that doesn't contain a shred of the generalized truth you're trying to come to here.
in fact, i currently live in an almost completely white rural area with hardly any "liberal socialist agendas" (they all voted for trump) and daresay most of them definitely don't have "varying degrees of native blood and already understand common memory and shared history."
i'm not sure exactly where you're coming from, but i think you've got a painfully obvious narrow worldview -- and it's showing.
what???
understanding what actually happened is not coming to a collective history, it is a collective history that our culture as a whole has continued to pass over and ignore. although in the sentence before this you said that everyone outside of my supposed liberal milieu already shares a common memory and shared history (yet their collective history doesn't lead them down this supposed socialist path)...
what kind of point are you trying to make here? you're pegging me for a liberal socialist, which i'm not
your point also about going to a Rez and telling them "what a bad job they're doing" is ridiculous. the whole point of my article is to shed light on the terrible history that has led to the current state of the Rezs. Native people in the face of this have continued to be resilient, strong and hold onto and revive their culture even though the government and individuals have tried to strip them of their land, traditions, identity, language, spirituality, etc.
all i can say is that you're barking up the wrong tree with your line of thinking in this previous comment. look beyond that. you're dealing in generalizations that hold no merit and it gives you no "argument" (since you've insisted on bringing one from the beginning).
My apologies. 'priviledged white' and 'collective memory' in the post are terms that rarely, rarely, show up without a specific reason. If you didn't orient to those through a educational facility, then did you adopt those terms of your own accord? Where did you gain exposure to them?
Of course if you are young, you probably wouldn't have noticed how far the overton window has traveled in areas of white guilt, and giving agency to natives.
Curious why you keep centering me?
The article clearly isn’t about me; I just shared that paragraph speaking from my perspective, but there’s a whole lot else up there ☝️👆☝️
Just trying to figure out where it's coming from.
So there appears to be three arguments/claims are being made:
1-Indigenous Erasure on the 4th of July
2-ongoing ill treatment of indigenous peoples
3-When we read these words, realize that in the context in which they were written, the "Merciless Indian Savages" were not considered equal
Is this correct, or is there more?
Is there a resolution to these that you prefer but haven't stated?
I'm not sure it matters where it's coming from, more what it's aimed at and where it's going to? Your comments do seem a little bit of a personal attack rather than looking at the content itself? @joesal
I am aware there appears to be a bit of ad hominem in my comments, I don't deny that. The problem is the 'white privilege' was used in a identifying personal way, so the personal was made political.
The white privilege concept has its roots, in cultural marxism in the form of Guilt Religion. (It is a means to manufacture collective guilt.)
I really am not sure one way or another how conscience the author is of the techniques and battle fields of cultural marxism. What I am seeing from the socialist movement is to stir up a problem, then have a socialist solution waiting in the wings to 'pre-solve' the problem before it is even introduced in a post.
I can't prove it, but the author does apparently have the solution waiting 'behind the curtain' and that unspoken solution is reparations. I wasn't aware where it came from. Most of the time it comes from the places I alluded to. A little research led to the usual locations.
A quick Google search lays out how reparations is a major socialist issue for 2022 and I address a bit of what was 'unseen' in this post:
https://steemit.com/anarchy/@joesal/socialist-agenda-of-2022-reparations
I take any movements of socialist factions seriously. Now whether the author wittingly or unwittingly is investing authority for the movement is unknown. There was enough to write this post.
Since the comments were discontinued by the authors request, the ability to unpack the details were cut short.
(We are seeing tons of this stuff in the United States, I'm not sure what your exposure is in Australia)
That’s correct. I’ve stated acknowledgment of the history and reparations, along with that::
Support native people// be an ally to them to stop the continued oppression and help them thrive
https://linktr.ee/lilnativeboy
This will likely be my last reply in this thread.