My Proposals For The Next Utopian BIWEEKLY 01/05/2018 4PM CET
In Utopian.io we run a public conference to decide on Utopian Rules and platform enhancements.
Next BIWEELY will take place on Discord 01/05/2018 4PM CET (tomorrow)
Find below my proposals.
This BIWEEKLY will only be focused on rules and organisational issues.
Proposals For Contributors
Any user found harassing a member of the Utopian Moderators or in general any member of the Utopian teams will be banned forever without prior notice. (EDIT: May be also subject to a downvote)
Contributors found to abuse the system by:
- Trying to milk the Utopian Bot.
- Using multiple accounts to abuse the system.
- Keep contributing with low quality contributions even after being notified.
- Plagiarism
- Using Licensed or commercial materials or CC without citing the source
- Tag spamming
May be subject to a Utopian downvote EDIT: and a lifetime ban.
- Time for changing a post after a Moderator requested for changes will be lowered down from 48 hours to 12 hours (EDIT: 24 hours). Every contribution not having the required changes within 12 hours (EDIT: 24 hours) will be rejected.
Proposals For Supervisors
As already agreed on a previous BIWEEKLY Supervisors will have to have a weekly public conference to review the works of their mods. Any Supervisor not willing to do so, will have to step back.
Supervisors will also have to make a monthly report. In this monthly report they will have to point out mistakes made by each of their moderators, the reasons of the mistakes and how to fix it. Any supervisor not willing to do so, will have to step back. We have already an example of monthly report made by the Supervisor @espoem. That will serve as a template.
New Supervisors will only be accepted if they have moderated at least 1000 contributions.
Advisors and Overseers may decide a Supervisor should step back without prior notice.
A Supervisor will have to step back if the majority of the other Supervisors believe the position should be left.
Supervisors should ban moderators if they find them making multiple mistakes, independently from the team they are assigned to.
Proposals For Moderators
Every user willing to be part of the Utopian Moderators will have to write a public Steemit post, proposing his intentions, categories he would like to moderate, his field of expertise and should nominate one Supervisor.
A Moderator will be banned from moderation if inactive for more than one week. EDIT: 2 weeks, unless priorly notified the reasons.
Moderation teams should be focused only on one category. Each moderator will be able to work only in one team and consequently only on one category based on his field of expertise. This will also require to move mods from their current team to another that meets better the moderator know-how.
Reward shares will be calculated on the reviews completed on a weekly basis instead than on the total amount of reviewed contributions.
Translations Category
Increase the minimum amount of translated words from 500 to 1000, unless the entire project has less than 1000 words in total, increasing the minimum rewards consequently.
Only accept Crowdin proofread translations or translations that were merged in Github.
Contributors should always get in touch with project owners to be proofread on Crowdin if they are willing to be rewarded by Utopian or there must be prood the translation was already successfully merged in the project.
Video Tutorials
Increase the minimum resolution to 720.
Should only cover the technical aspects of the project (e.g. technical installation, customisation, etc.) not the user experience side.
Tutorials
- Should only cover the technical aspects of the project (e.g. technical installation, customisation, etc.) not the user experience side.
Sub-Projects
Remove this category completely and give project owners a way to announce their projects / share updates about their projects.
Task Requests
Should not be votable.
P.S. I may add more as they come to my mind.
Post your Proposals Below
If you wish your proposals to be discussed during the next BIWEEKLY please paste them in the comments. Proposals made during the BIWEEKLY itself may not be considered because of time issues.
Thanks
-1- Translations category: a translation contribution can only be approved after it was merged into the GitHub repository, just like is the case for "development" contributions.
-2- Design category: a design contribution can only be approved after it was merged into the GitHub repository, just like is the case for "development" contributions.
Explanation:
The volume of mostly translation contributions but also design contributions "eats" the Utopian rewards system, yet those contributions hardly ever actually get used / implemented by the Open Source Software repositories. This defeats the mission of Utopian: to stimulate and catalyze Open Source development via rewards for their -valid- contributors.
This proposal will probably not be popular among some translators and design contributors, but it will be popular among good translators and designers that try really hard and do their best, because those contributions will be accepted and used by the repository owners. And anyway: action is needed to save the Utopian mission.
My suggestions:
For translations, only approve translations if they were merged, proofread or were upvoted/endorsed by project owners.
Your suggestion "[Tutorials] should only cover the technical aspects of the project" is very subjective and may lead to 90% of tutorials getting rejected. It is not clear what you mean by "technical aspect" and mods themselves may have their own interpretation of it. I suggest you drop this idea and try to find something that would be more specifically defined.
Same as 2 for video tutorials. Drop the technical aspect part.
Different words, same thoughts: upvoted of course! :-)
The technicalities aren't important. Dealing with this (credits for @wehmoen for this) IS important! This is not what Utopian is intended for.
We need to solve this
I understand the whole purpose of these new regulations are aiming to increase quality content. However, I believe this will cause opposite effect. I believe, If we require twice as more work for half the prize, it will do nothing more than disencourage people
You can think this as classic boss and empoloyee relationship for usual business enviroment. Do you think employee's are tend to work harder and more efficiently If you make them work twice as long for half the salary?
For our case, let's consider a person who does translation, they might think that in order to get same amount of $upvote, now they have to work 4 times more because of the new regulations. This will either make them give up on the system or encourage them to do careless work. ( I am sure most of the people will try to do it faster to compensate their loss)
I still believe we should encourage quality content and eliminate low quality /careless posts, I just don't believe this is the way to do it. There was a reason why Utopian-io witness had it's name on the rise recently. I don't think we should take this away from its people.
and another example is that poor qualiyt content producers spend about 20-25 minutes on their translations by using automatic translating tools like google translate
but quality content producers spend about 1.5-2 hour per translation if you make this change
quality content producer will spend 3-4 hour for same work while poor quality translaters spending 40-50 minutes
Extra quality content producers will have to spend gradually more than poor quality content producers now
Such as;
Poor quality content user will only spend 20 minutes more on their post . However, quality content users will need to spend 2 hours extra for their posts.
@omersurer, @omeratagun
Hello All
I am from Turkey and currently I am doing my Chemical Engineering PhD in Montana State.
Since I do not have lots of spare time, I like to do 1 or 2 Turkish Translation per day. I like to make my time and utopian-io's vote worth so I spend some time on my translations, they usually takes 1.5 hour to 2 hour.
If you increase the threshold to 1000 words, I do not think I will have time for that. I cannot spend 4 hours on a translation and I do not want to translate in a rush just to get upvote.
I have 4 more friends with me here (are also in the Grad School with me), they are also doing 1-2 translations with me everyday
Also some of the strings has highly code structure, so to make everyone's effort worth, I translate around 600 words instead of 500.
I guess what I am trying to say is, I also believe it will cause you to lose some of the quality translators. I do not think I will have time to translate 1000-1200 words. I believe 500 words were just perfect amount for upvote / words.
You have something really good going here utopian, I hope it will not change !
Thats what i am talking about. Solution is not the lowering down the ratio of upvote but more restricted rules with same amount of payments.
Instead of working onto elect the abuser, i would love to see there is a tons of higher quality contribution gets the proper amount of work. I suggest my proposal here in this comments. Im so excited to see what community will say. Best wishes!
so good examples thank you very much :)
you all right
You are %100 true!
%100 true!
I personally agree with your standpoint, and want to add;
There are so many changes on the the rules as i figured out that the most significant changes are about contributors. Due to my understanding from utopian page, most of contributions are made under the ''translation'' title. Which means creating value via utopian.io is mostly related to contributions on translation. Here is only one chart on Dec and there are many more.
Pie Chart
No need to expant the example with chart...
As a contributor in translation section, i don't produce a content like a production machine. i do give a sufficient time around 120-150 mins, translate over thn 500 words and doing my best for a quality content...
Now we will face with fourfold-force for same amount of value.
Not everyone have time to double for a work. In my opinion if the aim is to increase the quality of contents, trying to take a longer time for a half price sounds demoralizing.
And it could be discouraging for many others.
Any way, with the name of Utopia, the project itself has a tremendous approuch to the Value Sharing.
But if there is a change about 200% on structure of a work/value sharing , it could be brutal for some quality content producer.
These changes are great, and the fact that they are centered on quality control makes it clear your platform is growing rapidly - congrats!
Perhaps this could be reduced to 'removed from their position'? There are many reasons a mod may disappear, and a ban seems harsh. Just my opinion.
Thank you for having me on the team - I will continue to uphold the ideals of Utopian, and hope you manage to generate enough funds to tear down SNIA Viscosa.
Thanks and updated! :)
Proposal for translation category
Personal opinion; Giving a lower ratio is not a solution, its just a MORE queue for the feed. People will start contribute more than before to get the same amount and we will have issue more than a before. I believe, making the rules restricted and the criteria of standards harder than before is the key of having a quality contributions. These are my suggestions and i hope they will be on biweekly to discuss with all. Thanks for reading.
Proposal for New Contributors
Yes maybe a small registration procedure would help clear out the spam beforehands! Also a I am human box upon submission?
Great post @elear. It is awesome that you are working actively on quality control. Here are my suggestions for this bi-weekly update:
Proposals For Contributors
Translations Category
Quality Assurance In Translations Category
Self upvoted just for visibility.
Reputation does not guarantee someone is really capable and qualified (ie: transaltion), sometimes newcomers on this platfrom have abilities above average, they are just new to steemit and utopian.
I agree with this point. Translating 500 words is really time consuming except using google translate.
The last thing that I 100% agree with is this point;
Proposal for Suggestions Category