"Changing what you're accusing the CDC of..."

Go ahead, quote me and show I have changed my accusations.

"I'm glad you can't send kids to school without up to date vaccinations."

You skipped the part where they take the kids away from their parents. Is that fine with you too? A third of kids in the foster care system are abused in the system. Those are the official numbers. ALL of the kids I knew who were subjected to the foster care system were abused.

Every single one of them.

In my experience, taking kids from their parents guarantees they'll be abused.

"But still, the CDC isn't the one setting that standard. It is individual states and municipalities. "

The lobbyists of every industry craft the policies of governmental agencies at all levels to work together in their favor. Again, not novel, not secret, and I very much doubt it's news to you, so your arguments claiming the multipronged attack on parents that choose to protect their kids aren't coordinated are facile, disingenuous, and reprehensible.

"SV40 in that old batch of polio vaccine hurts no one."

Since I might have been injected with that virus, I certainly hope so, but I don't know that - and neither do you - because there are studies that show a causal link between SV40 and cancer.

Those studies, which the CDC is lying about right now, tell me I might have a risk for cancer from being injected with a contaminated vaccine distributed, and mandated, by the CDC.

You can't honestly say I don't have every right to be horrified, and to not trust them one bit. Actually, you can say whatever you want, because the only thing on the line for you is your credibility, integrity, and (redacted). You can say whatever you'd like, but it doesn't change the facts, and it doesn't make me trust them - or you - one bit.

"Vaccine ingredients serve a purpose, work in tandem with each other, and are set in an appropriate therapeutic range."

I DARE you to show me that mercury can be delivered to children via injection in 'an appropriate therapeutic range'. Or aluminum. Or SV40. Or Polyethylene Glycol. Or or any of the other adjuvants, agonists, or contaminants and preservatives found in vaccines, particularly for those that are allergic to them - for which victims aren't screened before the vaccines are administered - and in view of the fact that not providing a complete list of ingredients, and obtaining informed consent prior to treatment, is a crime.

"Vaccines are safe, man."

Shouting that at me doesn't make it ok to inject children with mercury, aluminum, or any of that other crap. It doesn't make it ok to force people to do it, or to lie about anything at all in order to get away with it. It won't make it ok that massive conflicts of interest involving $B's are endemic in the very agencies charged with making sure vaccines are safe, or for them to destroy evidence that proves they aren't safe.

They're not safe. You're acting to keep them not safe, because you're deliberately trying to obfuscate the issue, and twist the facts and statements of your debate opponents, as necessary to browbeat people trying to keep their kids safe.

Here's the deal: I actually believe in the vaccine theory, and want to make sure my kids are protected from virulent plague. I desperately want this, and so do myriad parents. That's why they object!

Address any of these issues substantively, and you'll start to convince parents that vaccines are safe(r). Address them all successfully, and the parents afraid to let their children be vaccinated won't be afraid anymore.

The parents didn't do those criminal things, and they are right to want to protect their children from them, and the criminals that do them.

Do something about those problems, and the vaccine safety advocates will no longer agitate for vaccine safety. They'll be happy to make their kids safe from horrible diseases.

All you have to do is actually take the poisons out of the vaccines, comply with informed consent laws, make manufacturers liable for injuries their products cause, the end the routine and habitual conflicts of interest and immense payments to the officials who are supposed to be testing and ensuring the safety of vaccines by pharmaceutical companies, end the bribes to doctors for administering vaccines, and provide sound, peer-reviewed studies showing the vaccines are safe and necessary while ensuring any corruption is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, including as crimes against humanity, such as genocide, when large populations of children are put at risk for profit.

That'll be a lot easier than convincing me vaccines are safe using tricks from the Handbook for Disinfo Agents.

http://stopsprayingus-sf.com/shill-handbook/#1