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RE: Every post of mine is getting flagged for no reason by starjuno, haeijin's proxy account. 11 flags in the morning, 2 already and more to follow after today's post

in #abuse6 years ago

Sorry to hear the about the attacks on your account things like that shouldn't take place here but I feel the need to point out that whats being done to you is exactly the same as what people like sanders and lyndsay are doing to other users who they dont agree with so its a bit ironic that posting about how bad bullying is you say thank you to some of the biggest bullies around

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I am thanking them because they have either helped me in this fight against @starjuno or they have fought him as well. I am not sure what @lyndsaybowes or @berniesanders have done to bully others. But i am sure, they are flagging posts they find spam. I dont know if they are going ahead and playing games @haejin is playing.

Bernie has been downvoting many more accounts than haejin, for a much longer time. Unfortunately many fall for his facade of playing the good guy.

thanks for clarifying. I am not too worried about berniesanders. I haven't been downvoted by him. I have been downvoted by haejin. Should I be ok with what haejin is doing because he has been doing it for a far lesser time than bernie, don't think so. my post is not about bernie. it is about haejin. and i will stick to that. You have a personal grudge against bernie, he is unnecessarily wiping out my payouts. I dont need proof that haejin is being asshole because he is doing to me. If you have proof that bernie is abusing the platform, please get me that. Otherwise this article from you is mostly speculation. (https://steemit.com/steem/@studgriffin/the-hypocrisy-and-abuse-of-berniesanders-and-abusereports-a-detailed-analysis) I have seen people come out and support me for this haejin nonsense. bernie hasn't helped by upvoting or donating any sbd. and why should he. If the only reason why you are posting here is because i thanked him, then i am not interested. haejin posts spam, but i am ok with him raping the reward pool. if a system is broken, it will be exploited.

You are defending bernie every step of the way though...

Saying my article is speculation and telling mattjack he deserved to be flagged is complete hypocrisy.

You beg for donations in your post relating to haejin flagging you. Have some sympathy for people who have been flagged by bernie!
There are a lot of people!

You are very lucky to be getting the pity donations you are getting. Be sure to milk it! Just stay on the side of logic, don't fall in to the trap of being team bernie or team haejin.

Thanks for the advice. Lets leave the argument there.

Mate, you are fucking resteeming haejin and posting junk tweets. And if that was flagged then it was rightly done.

Comments and posts completly unrelated were being flagged just like in your case can even show you an fine example of sanders bullying one of his own supporters telling him what he is and isnt allowed to vote for. Live by the sword die by the sword. Its funny how behaviour you support is suddenly completly unacceptable when aimed against you. And who gives you the right to decide what I can and can't resteem?are you one of thoose who believe freedom of speech means people can say what they want as long as you agree with it?

No you can resteem whatever you want. I am not against it. You can post whatever you can. If you have an example of the two doing what haejin is doing, let me know. I will highlight it in a post.

https://steemit.com/haejin/@steevc/re-mattjack-re-steevc-re-mattjack-re-steevc-re-mattjack-re-steevc-re-mattjack-re-steevc-re-haejin-re-steevc-haejin-is-a-bully-20180426t194437948z

Thats a link to a conversation between me and steevc where sanders threatened with destroying his account for upvoting something I said in the conversation even thought we were on opposing sides of a converstion on the whole flag war bullshit

https://steemit.com/kr-gazua/@love100/re-mattjack-re-blackyo-re-berniesanders-re-blackyo-re-berniesanders-if-you-want-to-know-why-i-m-flagging-the-kr-community-20180429t030656641z

If you go to the main post of this conversation you can read about sanders threatening the entire KR community on steemit because of a dislike to one KR user not sure what this was even about

My own "interactions" with sanders started
When annoyed for having to scroll through a mass of racist comments under a haejin post ( I do a bit of trading its good to see what other people think and the comment section under haejin posts was a good place for that) I asked sanders if he doesnt think that his low rep might be a sign his actions arent exactly what the community wants to what his reply was destroying my account and driving my rep to where it is at the time my rep was 39 and I never had a downvote before sorry cant find a link to that first comment it was 4-5 months ago

I also had conversations with other people on unralated matters downvoted the hell out of by sanders and lyndsey which was the reason for my comment to her under your post.
If you speak with other users like studgriffin netscape101 am sure they can provide many other examples of abusive behaviour from sanders that is if they are still around on the platform after seing the ugly face of steemit myself I dont use steem to often theese days I have lost my illusion of it being a happy place its just like the real world really where the rich do as they please and the rest is expected to fall in line or get destroyed.
As to reward pool rape I dont see how thats any diferent than using bid bots self voting is considered unethical by steemit rules buying votes is downright against the rules.( saying that im not actually against self voting seems a good way to attract investors and with bidbots around whats the difference? At least it stops feeding whales like sanders and is way more transparent so the community can actually see whats going on unlike with sanders actions)
I can understand why sanders would be pro bidbot owning several services himeself as to the attacks on haejin they do draw attention away from his own self voting from several accounts I stopped getting involved in this whole situation myself after when looking into things I found transfers from lyndseys account to rancho which made me think WTF is going on here? When I wrote about being sorry for you being attacked with costant downvotes to supress your say I was being sincere having been there myself but wanted to point out that a lot of things arent quite what they appear to be and while the ugly dowvoting speech suppressing tactics are used abused by both sides it is sanders that started the attacks under a false claim of acting for the good of the community while in reality covering his own ugly actions.to be honest cant really see any point in you posting about what I said youll just end up being fired at by both sides. All the best

I also had conversations with other people on unralated matters downvoted the hell out of by sanders and lyndsey

Can you point out the times Lyndsay did that? I looked and found no evidence of her downvoting the names you mentioned or yourself. I also saw no downvotes coming from any of them. I did see a few downvotes from dan paulson to lyndsay, but none returned. Also, regarding the transfers, I found a single transfer for .001 with a memo attached. That's how we communicate directly on steemit. Look at anybody's wallet and you will see the same thing.

I think a lot of people think this "war" is about Bernie. It's not. The things he did were not done by karamyog, and using bernie's actions as justification makes little sense. Similar tactics were once used against Bernie long before haejin came around. Does that make him justified in using them against you? Not in my opinion.

I wasn't justifyng his actions or anybody elses I was just pointing out that the use of flagging as a means of silencing users is something that both sides have been doing and in both cases personally I am against it.I felt sorry for karamyog having experienced the same just from other people but I did feel its important to point out that saying thank you to bullies while writing about how bad bullying is didn't in my opinion show much intergrity if you want to condemn a type of behaviour that has to apply to everybody the same applies to the whole reward pool rape theme if self voting is to be condemned then why attack haejin for doing so yet allow and even reward bernie for doing it? How is using a bidbot more ok than self voting? Because the whales get fed as well while you do so? sorry but I strongly disagree with that buying or selling votes is just another way round to cash in on your voting power with the votes going to often undeserving content yet it looks like again while condeming heajin for doing so many hold bidbot owners in high prestige and happily pay for there services.I have to point out self voting is considered unethical buying selling votes is dmn straight against the rules.
My personal opinion is your voting power you do what you want with it.
Many people wont vote for somebody if they see bidbots being used keep the same for self voting if you dont like it rather than starting a flag war.

As to the examples you asked for as I said that situation took place going back about 4 months ago while lyndsay was fanaticly following every one of bernies votes and flags I dont know if she still does it. But seing her complain about how bad it is to be constantly downvoted on whatever you post like she did to me even in conversations via comments with people made my day. Id post you a link of proof but currently im accessing steem via my phone and scrolling back through such a period of time and amount of comments to find the ones mentioned is damn uncomfortable to say the least.

I checked her account. I found no record of her ever downvoting you or anybody you mentioned. The history of the block chain is intact. You must be thinking of someone else. The proof you are speaking of does not exist.

I'll have to take back the part about her abusingly using downvotes on me I made a mistake there it was only abusive comments she engaged in and supporting such behaviour so doesn't realy change much also the fact still remains about certain other individuals on karamyogs thank you list heavily engaging in bullying and abusive downvotes so the point i made is still valid
Also if you read the comment you were refering to I never mentioned about Her downvoting anybody but myself so please dont try to discredit what im saying by claiming me to say things I haven't

Alright, i am concerned about what bernie is doing. But if you think, bernie's negative reputation was a sign of his actions, your lack of support from the community or haejin is a similar problem. My issue is with haejin. I did not post anything about him or rancho today. My payouts have been wiped out still. Haejin's TA is utter junk! And rewards should be 0. Plus i haven't flagged him because i think that the system is broken and is ripe for abuse. So whether is abuse by bernie or by haejin, i am ok with that. What i am not ok with is using power to wipe out my payoffs. And then using rancho to not allow me to speak at all, since i have not impacted his payouts in anyway. Stop telling me about bernie. If you want to talk about haejin, you're more than welcome to. I cant make steemit better. I can write about it, and definitely write about me being prevented from interacting with the community. If you think bernie did wrong, talk to bernie. Or write a post about him or talk to someone who hates him. My post isnt about him. Haejin isn't justified to flag me because bernie is also doing it. What logic is that?

I just pointed out its a tactic used by both sides now, started off with bernies attacks.you asked for examples I gave them have you tried talking to haejin (not calling him a bully I dont think that will help) disasociating yourself from people like bernie and lyndsey who are doing exactly what happend to you to haejin and his supporters or anybody who questions their actions might help as well ,openly supporting their actions or persons probably isnt taken as a sign of neutrality, I dont know what you did to piss haejin off in the first place but I think we both know he has better uses for his sp than randomly downvoting people.
As to myself talking to sanders thats like advising somebody to try to talk a rabid dog out of bitting him I told you how my simple and justifiable question triggered him off to destroy my account he is simpleton sociopath with an illusion of grandiose and of being a pillar of the community while the truth is far from it.

I dont think he gets it though.

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