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RE: What Does the Bible Say About the Shape of the Earth? Part 1
I appreciate the honesty here, if someone says they are Christian, they must conform to the word, rather than making the word conform to themselves. It's tempting to believe government authorities over ancient wisdom, but sometimes we have to choose which is more important. @ironshield
Or conclude that the Bible is wrong and Christianity is untrue.
They could, but it would be irresponsible to do this without researching first. The truth is really stranger than fiction. @ironshield
Why do you assume they would've neglected to do the research? It is the other way around in my opinion. People who do the research discover Christianity is false and leave it. The ones who continue to believe have neglected to investigate the basis for their beliefs from any sources besides Christian apologetics ministries.
I find it requires more faith to deny the authenticity of Christianity then to not.
The reasons Christians deny flat earth is that they are afraid that it will prove the bible wrong. So they conform the bible to match their biases and make it more 'palatable' for the general public.
What I respect from your article is the honesty in saying that in ancient times, the bible authors believed in flat earth. So much so, that it was simply a given. From an ancient point of view, a globe earth is more ridiculous than flat earth is today. It would not be sufficient to say "gravity" when they ask how lands far away could be upside-down beneath them. @ironshield
This is also how Muslims feel about Islam, and how Mormons feel about Mormonism. I am sure you have very sophisticated apologetics, but so do they.
However, supposing there was a group of people traveling about your area, led by a charismatic speaker who claims that the world is ending soon. He promises he alone can save you, but only if you sell your belongings, devote the rest of your life to him, and cut off family members who try to stop you.
He also wants to change your name, advises you to leave your home/job if necessary to follow him, and says that if you don’t love him more than your own family, you’re not worthy of him. What sort of group is that?
We're coming at this from opposite directions. I was raised agnostic/spiritual/newage but am now following that charismatic speaker because I believe His words and deeds are true.
From what I gather, you were raised Christian but believe you have been enlightened and would rather avoid what you now consider is a foolish/dangerous cult.
@ironshield
I don't think I am "enlightened". It does not require unusual intelligence to recognize a bog standard end of the world cult, any more than it does to recognize that the Nigerian prince emailing lucrative offers to Americans probably isn't legit.
Do you agree that Mormonism and Islam began as I described? If so, what makes Christianity different?
Actually, it's just the opposite. There are many testimonies from people who investigated it and found it to be true. I don't know of anyone who did the opposite.
Josh McDowell talks about this in his book, "Evidence That Demands A Verdict".
Probably because you avoid those people and only fraternize with other Christians. Here's twenty two thousand ex-christians for you to talk to: https://www.reddit.com/r/exchristian
There's also a sub for people who left atheism: https://www.reddit.com/r/exatheist/
...but it has a whopping 748 members. How come the number of ex-christians alone (not counting ex-mormons, ex-jehova's witnesses, ex-catholics, which all have their own subs) so greatly dwarfs the number of ex-atheists?
I googled this, and it looks like Josh Dowell is another christian apologist. I am beginning to get the impression that you believe what you do because christian apologetics books are the only material you've read on the subject of whether Christianity is credible.
Will a Mormon who only reads Mormon apologetics books get an accurate impression of Mormonism's credibility?