Thank you very much. It is indeed a bit difficult to explain so that everybody can understand the meaning :) I have experienced the same. I am now working with a team developing infrastructure components (infrastructure as in IT infrastructure). They never have worked in a agile environment before and I must admit it is quite hard to get it "tussen de oren" , but as soon as the experience the benefits for their team I think things will go much more smooth... I already see a improvement in their way of work and planning ... :)