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RE: If the video of the tragic shootings in New Zealand was posted to Steemit / DTube, should it be taken down?

in #dpoll5 years ago (edited)

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  • Yes, it should be removed

If you mean a recording of an actual/real shooting, and people dying (or even getting injured) in the video, then yes, certainly/definitely. It should be removed.
Especially, if the families, relatives and/or friends of the victims are requesting it, and they probably/most likely (will) do (or already doing it).
This primarily should not be a matter of censorship.
This primarily should be a matter of respect and humanity.
Imagine yourself in the place of them. Either in the place of the victims, or in the place of their families, relatives and/or friends.
You would probably do/wish/request the same.
Except for the face(s) of the shooter(s)/criminal(s), of course.
That should be shown everywhere to make people able to recognize the murderer(s)/criminal(s).
I don't know the situation and the details, but I think that this would be the most logical/obvious (or at least good/proper) move.

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Thanks for your considered and in-depth answer! Excellent points raised.

Agreed, apart from... "Except for the face(s) of the shooter(s)/criminal(s), of course. That should be shown everywhere to make people able to recognize the murderer(s)/criminal(s)."
Can't agree with that.

We are all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Anyone who has served their prison time and been released has the right to move on with their lives.
In this particular case, there's not a lot of doubt, as the guy was caught in the act. He may have been hoping for martydom/death-by-police/being-put-down-like-a-rabid-dog (depending on your perspective). And given the nature of the crime, I doubt he'll get out of prison alive.
But it's the principle of the thing, and goes back to the old argument: "What if it was you arrested? For something you didn't do? How would you want society to react?"

"We are all innocent until proven guilty in a court of law."
Can't agree with that.
Let's say that you are witnessing/witnessed a mass murder (you may even get injured during the shooting), and you clearly see the faces of the murderers/killers.
You may even know them. This can also go with the victims.
Let's say that you know them. They are your family and your friends.
Would you say (even for a second) that the shooting persons are innocent? I highly doubt it.
And you also mentioned yourself that "In this particular case, there's not a lot of doubt, as the guy was caught in the act."

"Anyone who has served their prison time and been released has the right to move on with their lives."
I did not said that the released criminals don't have the right to move on with their lives (who am I to say such a thing?), but a mass murdererer is still a mass murderer, no matter what.
They would get a lifelong prison or even a death sentence in some countries.
I know that the lifelong prison is not literally lifelong in most of the cases, so even if they will get a lifelong prison, then there is still a legal possibility that they will get out of prison alive.
Except, if they will get a lifelong sentence without parole or conditional release.

"And given the nature of the crime, I doubt he'll get out of prison alive."
But maybe he will, maybe not. We don't know know yet.
He can be killed in the prison by other prisoners (or even by the prison guards).
But if he get out of prison alive, then there is a (probably high) possibility that he will kill/murder people again, but like I said, I don't know the situation and the details.

"But it's the principle of the thing, and goes back to the old argument: "What if it was you arrested? For something you didn't do? How would you want society to react?""
It is certain that there are innocent people, who got arrested and sentenced to serve a certain time in prison, but I think that this question is irrelevant in this case, because there is an undoubted proof (video recording, plus there are probably many witnesses) in this case.
And you even wrote this yourself.

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