SOOOO Excited To Be On DTUBE! | What I Meant By Regulation & Censorship | Furious Pete

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The big test will be whether or not Dtube "users" bury or TRY to bury videos exposing the psyops. The fake terrorist attacks. The fake school shootings. The fake events that are SOLD as real by the mainstream media, but are entirely fictional and used to push agendas and provoke fear in the masses. And I use the term Dtube "users" in quotation marks, because while this platform is entirely community-voted and moderated, it's quite transparent how one can game the system and simply buy an overwhelming amount of influence (and censorship power) by hoarding more Steem / voting power, thus control of the narrative. (Or an attmpt to control the narrative)

While I don't fully agree with your political leaning and philosophical bent, I do however share the same concerns with you regarding the internal censorship between community members of opposing beliefs. I don't know what's the perfect solution to this to be honest!

On a side note, @furiouspete123 facial expression be like:

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Of course there will always be people trying to control a system. But other people are highly invested in this platform with their own VESTS and Steem Power and if someone goes a bit too out of line then humans react. Since we are wired for stable tribes and building communities like that.

Even though someone can do a so called game the system it's also very transparent in how people spend their money! So people can see what others are doing. And then you have the reputation and trust system which also helps people to behave. Nobody will be able to control the narrative since there is so much information overload right now. That 1 company will be able to control is just not logical.

Worst case scenario you get downvoted into oblivion and anyone who upvotes you gets blanket downvoted too. Thing is, almost nobody with that much steem power has any real political affiliation. It will take a long time before you see big corporations show up to buy steem to be able to censor content here. And if that does happen we would all become filthy rich. I would be damn near set for life if steem went to 50-100 USD a pop. That in turn would make it even harder to censor as the amount of steem power needed would only go up to counter how much more worth everyone else has.

Yeah that is true what you are saying. But we also already live in extreme abundance we just don’t like to see it that way. Money has been easier to get access to the last 100 years. Now we have so many interesting ways to start to make some serious money just by generate it online. Money will mean less in the future because stuff will become cheaper. As Elon Musk have said. True abundance is coming.

Then it will more be about trust, connections and reputation to thrive! And intelligence of course. The fun thing with these times is that it’s finally the Geeks time to be on top of the food pyramid of life.

It does sort of feels that Steem for sure will easy hit 100 dollars! And the amazing thing right now with your Steem Power is how you are in the top 1% of users on the website! Be rich in life will be defined in other ways. As in who has the most connections and has built up the most love by giving to other humans! That will be the real currency in the new world.

Since money will be so easy to generate. Hey Steem may even hit a 1000 dollars eventually in a couple of years. Then it will all be about how you could re-invest it in other people to get an even more awesome return to keep doing the same thing!

This is like saying american political system works with lobbying (and yet they are most corrupt) , thats only from economic side since you just need enough money to get into where you want to be so its all about access. Look how that went with gmo and other garbage they unleash upon world. Simply doesnt work.

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I heard through one of your YouTube videos that you're friends with LA Beast...?

Get that man on here!

We can use some more content creators like you and the Beast on here. Start to shake things up a bit like we need to.

Yea, LA Beast is having a hard time on youtube at the moment, a few months back he was totally demoetized and was only allowed to earn via live streams, then they banned his livestreams and put his account on hold because of "offensive" eating challenges. Needless to say, he was angry!

"offensive" eating challenges???What the hell?What else is left that allowed on Youtube? Nail polish videos??

Maybe there was not enough equality between burgers and hotdogs!

he was hungry to :)

Definitely want to see LA Beast here, too. Have a nice day!

LA Beast has said that he will never stop posting videos to youtube, and will remain true to his goals (you know how he goes on :P). But with all of the crap they've thrown at him recently, you gotta wonder when he's going to snap and come looking for another platform. I'm sure he's aware of Dtube. There's no way people haven't clued him in already. Maybe Pete needs to give him the talk.

  1. Nothing can be removed from the blockchain. Ever. "Regulation" isn't going to change this.

  2. Any app can choose any policy it likes for what it presents to the user. This means evil stuff can be blocked.

  3. The user can choose what app they want to use. They can choose to use an app that blocks porn, or an app that blocks political stuff they don't like, or an app that only blocks child porn, snuff porn and rape. Or an app that blocks nothing.

  4. Steemit.com works by simply blocking anything with negative vote counts. This means anything voted down to oblivion is invisible automatically. You can also report genuinely illegal content to Steemit and they will ensure that their web app does not show it.

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These facts were probably in the Getting Started guide I was supposed to read, but thanks for posting them. Very helpful for somebody just starting out.

Is there a getting started guide?

Actually, it's called the "quick start guide". Here: https://steemit.com/welcome#Quick_Start_Guide

Thank you! :) I just posted that.

Well explained

This means anything voted down to oblivion is invisible automatically. You can also report genuinely illegal content to Steemit and they will ensure that their web app does not show it.

But this also means anybody can create an app that pulls out everything that has ever written on the Steem blockchain since genesis without blocking a single thing.

Perfect system! If the Bible was originally written on a blockchain--I'm pretty sure religion wouldn't have existed by now.

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now that is an explanation that add peas to the carrots and fills my entire belly, with knowledge!

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Thanks for the explanation

Congrats on your initial Dtube success. Keep up the good work.

Hi! Unfortunately, I haven't watched your videos, so I have no idea about the content you usually create. However I think, that the most value for steemit and dtube communities are in your numerous amount of subscribers. There is huge potential of promoting dtube and steemit via your youtube channel, although I'm not sure if it complies with their rules and your intentions. Anyway, welcome aboard and good luck!

@everythink, exactly the way i was feeling.

Yep, I think that right now Steem's blockchain has around 100-500k real users, bots and twinks excluded. Each new thousand of users is extremely valuable for the whole platform. A million of new users would lead to a doubling of Steem price in my opinion.

But right now the important part is not to double the users. More to create a stable system and we got years to do that. Things that goes up fast will only cause lots of confusion and not stability. It's value creation that this platform needs. Especially unique content. Even if 1 million would come so fast that wouldn't really generate massive value since that takes more time to build up. The earnings are already extremely high they don't need to be any higher.

@furiouspete123 videos are quiet entertaining I've followed his adventures and cancer story on YouTube. You should be entertained.

many of the youtubers are shifting their time from youtube to dtube & steemit where they are getting less number of rules & regulations compare to youtube .

I dont know if this is that guy that i saw on youtube that had cancer and did videos about it ...
It was him ?

Man what are you talking about ..I'm not getting you.sorry

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I'm pretty sure he wants to test it out for at least 6 months before he can put his name on a service like this. Since it's so new and that we have no idea where it will go in the future. When you run a big YouTube channel you don't just want to put your name on anything that comes out. Since you have integrity and care about what you promote.

Yeeeeeaaahhh...there is some sort of "regulation." It's called the "STEEMIT Mafia." You have a group of folks who claim to be the "Justice Warriors" for good on this platform. But they are super jerks. They have power trips all the time and they dictate what is right and wrong, according to their own standards. And sometimes these power tripping whales get into fights with each other...and God help you if you get in the middle of it.

There is a distinction between Steem (the blockchain) and Steemit or dTube (which are websites that interface with the blockchain).

The teams that run Steemit and dTube can censor what is shown on their website. Indeed, anyone who has their copyrighted content shown without their permission on Steemit can write to the Steemit team and ultimately get that content removed from Steemit. They can equally choose to take down illegal material. Also they have opted to hide content that has a sufficient amount of downvotes from users.

However the content will still exist on Steem the blockchain. And someone else could create a "Steemit uncensored" website that shows everything, including content Steemit has blocked/ hidden for whatever reason.

Another distinction to make is that video files shown on dTube are not themselves stored on the Steem blockchain. They are stored on another (peer-to-peer) platform, IPFS.

So the videos themselves do not have the censorship resistance of the blockchain however they are hosted in a decentralised way. If a file contained illegal content, I believe there are ways that people running the nodes that host it can effectively blacklist it . If no-one seeds the file it won't be shown. However someone somewhere could seed it and make it available on IPFS. It's worth bearing in mind that there are costs associated with hosting IPFS files so the videos are not guaranteed to be hosted for all time, without further payment (I'm no expert in IPFS btw but that's my basic understanding).

From a Steem blockchain perspective, it hosts text, albeit some of that text may be links to media. So the question becomes whether text can be so egregious as to warrant censorship/ regulation - which would be virtually impossible on a decentralised blockchain, it would be like trying to censor the internet. If the issue is the media - then the best recourse would be to pursue those that host it (e.g. on IPFS) or those that show it (e.g. on a frontend interface like Steemit or dTube or Busy or whatever).

Okay, that answer was a little longer than I expected by I hope it helps. Welcome to Steemit and thanks for answer the important questions that many are bound to ask!

Will be very fun to see how the governments and big companies will deal with these decentralized platforms. Considering that they are still struggling how to deal with copyrighted content and chasing down regular people downloading files off the Internet. Not like these services will make their job any easier! Lots of potential for the humble hard working person that is a bit street smart.

Once they allowed Bitcoin to exist it was only a question of when people would discover ways to generate money digitally thanks to other humans! I guess in a way what you are saying that someone can create a Steemit uncensored edition that in the future privacy will disappear more and more. Everyone will know everything about everyone. Especially considering the amount of cameras that already records a large city. When these cameras becomes smaller we will truly map out every single square meter on this earth. And people will be used to know all about everything. Even the uncensored stuff!

Censor the Internet will of course get too much backlash since it’s so big now and impossible to stop. It has become it’s own monster that just keeps on growing and expanding every year that goes. We just keep on feeding the machine with more information and data. Until we hand it over to AI and Machine Learning to see what conclusions it will make from the stuff we have gathered together.

It will probably seem very silly in the near future to try to censor 1s and 0s. Especially when you finally will be able to simulate anything you want in your VR Headset. We will probably see the biggest generation difference between the young and old since things are progressing at such a rapid rate now in the technology field.

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Hey! I am so happy that you are here, been watching you on youtube. Love all your eating challenges and your world tour .
You are such an inspiration. Welcome on Dtube and Steemit. I am also new here. :)

Furious Pete vs KSI on D Tube Live, now that could lift the platform onto a whole new ground! Welcome to Steemit buddy, hitting you with future upvotes! Time to get Meldiva on here and blogging, additional income.

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