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RE: The Past We Had Internet, Now We Have Steem

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This post was brought to my attention by @crypto.piotr and the subject matter is right up my alley, as they say. Thank you Piotr!

There are a number of things playing on the Kinder-net. In the USA a law was passed, sometime around 2011 or so, that protected search engines from liability for what others published, even if the information was incorrect, incomplete and from an anonymous source (see where this is going?). Many Businesses and individuals being extorted and/or blackmailed on line, tried to appeal to the search engine companies to de-list such publications, because it is impossible to serve Court documents to an anonymous entity hiding behind attorney/client privilege. Initially the very basic and clear answer that came back from both the search engines and US law enforcement was: Screw You!

Not anymore. Today the search engines and website owners are paying attention as that mistake cost them Billions, yes that is a "B" and this isn't over.

Websites like ripoffreports (.) com have taken steps to ensure their smut can't be found in Europe; it seems to operate like an extortion site that charges to remedy the problems their publication causes. They won't take down the original publication but will redact it with a "conflict" resolution. ..for a fee of course..

Then there were revenge porn sites that let someone post video anonymously and the targeted individual, mentioned with their real name and location, was given the opportunity to have it removed for a "fee" of course..

Some website owners are awaiting trial in California and more legal trouble could be waiting for them if they are stupid enough to travel. Another 200, or so, websites and their owners are not immune to similar treatment, it's just a matter of a few more years.

Many social media sites are now finding out that adhering only to American law will eventually backfire when they ignore the Plankton, and the Plankton turns to poison and the whales go hungry :)

I recently found an account here on Steemit that posts material that falls in the category pseudo revenge entrapment blackmail extortion. This guy passes himself off as an underage girl to see if he can get men to agree to meet her. When they show up he has a video Camera rolling and posts the video as if the guy is a criminal. The problems are that: there was no girl, no crime was committed, and if he targets the wrong individual the fall out could affect all of us when some government uses that to target the block-chain for regulation. As it stands, that account has likely already violated EU law.

Yes the kinder-net is like the street and it would be naive to think it's not coming to the block-chain. When smut-sites publish on Steemit under freedom of speech, expect 17 million angry people to also show up to cause a disturbance. They'll be bringing their hackers with them, and why not? For those folks it's just a matter of rinse and repeat after the first round of take-downs.

Do I have any answers? No. This is a double edged Sword for me; I believe in free speech, but I find that truth and accuracy are not easily found. As a contrast, manipulation, omissions, and outright lies rule the day. The problem lies in that we can't assign equal value to everyone's statements. I believe in someone's right to say: politician X is a child molester, but without hard evidence, I also think that statement shouldn't be in the first 10 listings of a Google search. (and that is exactly what happened with the smut-sites, manipulated to rank high in Google)

If you got this far; thank you for your time!
Greetings!
Onno.

P.S. While the laws passed by the EU are recent, in many member states similar laws already existed but cross border enforcement was a matter of money and sovereignty. The EU doesn't have that problem to the same degree.

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These are excellent points that you approached in your comment! Thank you very much for contributing.
I believe that, as we are increasing the number of new users and applications, we will see perhaps a significant increase in problems related to blackmail and extortion of some users within the platform.
It is something that we really need to think about, because we will not be able to restrict these publications, they may end up creating serious problems for people who have been judged unfairly.

What an amazing and mature comment @onnovocks

MASSIVE! :D

I recently found an account here on Steemit that posts material that falls in the category pseudo revenge entrapment blackmail extortion

WHaaaat?

This is insane.

He's still here Piotr. Last posted 16 hours ago. See screen shot:

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Image redacted for names.

I'm not going to list the source because I don't want to give this guy any publicity. It states right there that there was no 15 year old girl, so a crime could not have been committed by the individual mentioned. To me this looks like entrapment.

The problem with this publication is lack of validated evidence or worse, possible extortion; pay or we'll publish. I've seen a lot of this kind of garbage, but those websites are now scrambling to keep their smut out of EU jurisdiction. To the best of my knowledge it's not yet possible to do that on the Blockchain.

To me this looks like entrapment.

Indeed it does look like it @onnovocks. Thank you for taking the time to write those comments. Appreciate it a lot.

Yours, Piotr

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